RE:  Interbase...free
Interbase is not 'free.'  Check the license terms.  It is so 'not-free' that
it spawned a competing open-source project (FireBird) due primarily to the
inertia of Borland, but also due to the terms of the license.

For developers looking to seriously develop commercial-class or commercial
software and resell it, licenses are EVERYTHING, and the specific wording is
VERY IMPORTANT if you wish to have a business that appeals to the corporate
types or serious commercial customers (not to mention one that lasts more
than a few months).  The GPL and the various other FSF-sponsored licenses,
as well as most of the knock-offs derived from it by the corps to join the
'open' parade are poisonous (a word my attorney used when I first proposed a
number of DBMs to her, including InstantDB, Interbase and MySQL).

PostgresSQL and the other DBMS's (including, naturally,
hsqldb/HyperSonicSQL) that conform to the BSD-style license, are the only
ones appropriate do business with, from a developer/ISV perspective,
especially if you ever want to charge money for the product or its
derivatives without panicking your existing customer base.  They also lend
themselves well to Java devlopment (because of Sun's peculiar license ideas)
and to the various flavors of Open Source (GPL, LGPL, AGPL, BCGPL, etc. ad.
nauseum) available, because the BSD license subsumes to the more restrictive
license _by_design._

Developers who are serious ignore the licensing issue and their IP at their
peril!

Michael J. Cannon
Project Manager, COO - hsqldb.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan North
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:08 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: A Swedish Idea
>
>
> Ok, I'll bite.
>
> Orion is not an open source product and probably never will be.  The fact
> that it is free for development purposes and remarkably inexpensive for
> deployment shouldn't alter your perception of (a) the ownership and
> proprietary nature of the code, or (b) the quality of the product.
>
> MySQL is a quick and dirty database.  It has a number of glaring
> omissions
> compared to most grown-up RDBs (transactions and sub-selects to name but
> two), and there are better open source products out there (Interbase and
> PostgreSQL spring to mind) for scalability, robustness, data integrity,
> yada yada yada.  Therefore not the ideal companion for a product built to
> support a technology that is all of these things.
>
> Use a kiddie database if you must, but please don't inflict it on
> the rest
> of us!
>
> Cheers,
> Dan/tastapod
>
> ps. LogicSphere - mmm - can't wait!
>
>
> At 10:17 18/04/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >Why?!?!
> >
> >I have an idea, why don't IBM and BEA team up and
> >release...logicsphere! After all, they're both US companies...
> >
> >On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Kemp Randy-W18971 wrote:
> >
> > > Now this may be a dumb idea, and I am just thinking up brainstorms to
> > promote Orion, but it occurred to me that both Mysql and Orion are in
> > Sweden.  Now I don't know how big Sweden is, but perhaps a meeting
> > between the two teams could find ways to mutually promote or bridge the
> > two products.  Just a thought.   Speaking of Sweden, since Rickard O.
> > from Jboss lives there, does anyone know of Magnus or Karl have
> meet him?
> > In once sense, but Jboss and Orion are trying to make this EJB
> technology
> > available to more people.
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Dan North
> VP Development  -  Cadrion Technologies Ltd  -  +44 (0)20 7440 9550
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