I like the download optional tarball idea.. but it would be really sweet if it was something more like, download a tarball of just the platform you are running on?

No sense pulling down mandrivia packages for a RHEL4 cluster.. although, the marginal savings on bandwidth might not be worth it when we look at how many people are using this option..

Bernard Li wrote:
I think he's talking about the non-core packages...  we can...

- ship future tarballs with core packages only
- have user then d/l all the optional "included" packages via OPD or...
- grab a tarball with all the remaining "included" packages

etc...

Cheers,

Bernard

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Greidanus
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:57
To: Siadal, Jeremy C
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos

I'd suspect there should be a easy way to setup a local repository, which you could populate from a download of a net repository? use some sort of FTP mirror program?

Definitly something that would need to be documented though.

Siadal, Jeremy C wrote:

Being in the situation where I use few of the optional components, I
agree that the tarball is a bit bloated. However, we need a

mechanism

that allows package updates both online and offline.

As my clusters don't have access to the Internet, I need a

simple method

to grab the additional packages I use and add them to

OSCAR. This also

usually means I need to grab the packages with a Windows

system and then

transfer the packages to CD or upload them to the cluster.

-----Original Message-----
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Of Bernard Li

Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:43 PM
To: Bruce Becker; Paul Greidanus
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos

I guess really, you need the pre-reqs, even the core packages can be
downloaded "just in time".

I'll let other developers pitch in their thoughts. My

concern is that

the tarball is continuing to grow and it may become too

bloated for us

to manage in the future.

Cheers,

Bernard


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Becker
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 13:11
To: Paul Greidanus
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos

Hi OSCAR-devel,

Sorry to sort of butt-in...


I've been wondering why more packages aren't in the step 0

aditional

packages, rather then in the growing tarball?
What about using the tarball to distribute only really core

things, and


have everything else downloadable just in-time, or for the user to
mirror for their arch locally (by a script?)

From a purely bandwidth-related point fo view, I would

really like to

see this happen - it takes us over 36 hours to get an OSCAR tarball
down to Cape Town... There are certain packages that we can do
without, and would only add them just-in-time as you say, when users
clamour. What is the minimum of packages that _have_ to be bundled
with the trunk ?

Thanks
Bruce

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