Allow me to clarify - sorry if I did not. When I say outside I am referring to outside the 169.236.129.xxx network. Another outside of this network - I can not get a password prompt at all and then I get:
ssh -vvv [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenSSH_4.4p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7l 28 Sep 2006 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to madrid.ucmerced.edu [169.236.129.234] port 22. debug1: connect to address 169.236.129.234 port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host madrid.ucmerced.edu port 22: Connection timed out I hope I have clarified this more. Thanks Inside this network - another box on the 169.236.129 - requires a 30+ second wait for a password. Once I am on the headnode I can ssh to any of my compute nodes with no problem. Firewall - on the headnode - ssh port is opened. Greenseid, Joseph M. wrote: > ok, first, i want to make sure i understand. > > when connecting from "outside," you're connecting from somewhere where you're > trying to access via the 169.236.129.234 address (eth0 interface). > > when connecting from "inside," you're doing it from somewhere else on your > 10. network, trying to access via the eth1 interface, which is 10.0.0.2? > > the inside hang is probably because there's no /etc/hosts entry at all now > for 10.0.0.2. > > as for the outside, that may be a misconfigured firewall or something -- can > you ping the box (assuming you're not blocking ping)? can you `telnet > 169.236.129.234 22` (telnet to the sshd port) to see if you can connect? i > think that this problem is not oscar, but network or firewall related. can > you connect to the outside world from madrid (i.e. can you ping google or > access some web site or something to ensure that the network connection > between madrid and the world is working)? > > --Joe > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joseph Norris > Sent: Mon 8/11/2008 2:52 PM > To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar installed - tests run - problem withheadnode > > > > Here is what I have now: > > # Do not remove the following line, or various programs > # that require network functionality will fail. > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > 169.236.129.234 madrid.ucmerced.edu madrid > > > # These entries are managed by SIS, please don't modify them. > 10.0.0.3 oscarnode1.ucmerced.edu oscarnode1 > 10.0.0.4 oscarnode2.ucmerced.edu oscarnode2 > 10.0.0.5 oscarnode3.ucmerced.edu oscarnode3 > 10.0.0.6 oscarnode4.ucmerced.edu oscarnode4 > > > I am still getting a 20-30 second wait for password from boxes inside my > network - when I do the following from inside: > > ssh -vvv [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I get: > > OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug1: Applying options for * > debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 > debug1: Connecting to madrid.ucmerced.edu [169.236.129.234] port 22. > debug1: Connection established. > debug1: identity file /home/joseph/.ssh/identity type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/joseph/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 > debug1: identity file /home/joseph/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 > debug1: loaded 3 keys > debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.3 > debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3 pat OpenSSH* > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3 > debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL > PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL > PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,[EMAIL PROTECTED],zlib > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,[EMAIL PROTECTED],zlib > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL > PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL > PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,[EMAIL PROTECTED] > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,[EMAIL PROTECTED] > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 > debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 > debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 > debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP > debug2: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 122/256 > debug2: bits set: 505/1024 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY > debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/joseph/.ssh/known_hosts > debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 13 > debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/joseph/.ssh/known_hosts > debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 11 > debug1: Host 'madrid.ucmerced.edu' is known and matches the RSA host key. > debug1: Found key in /home/joseph/.ssh/known_hosts:13 > debug2: bits set: 502/1024 > debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct > debug2: kex_derive_keys > debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent > debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received > debug2: key: /home/joseph/.ssh/identity ((nil)) > debug2: key: /home/joseph/.ssh/id_rsa ((nil)) > debug2: key: /home/joseph/.ssh/id_dsa ((nil)) > > After the 30+ second wait I get a password prompt: > > debug3: packet_send2: adding 48 (len 64 padlen 16 extra_pad 64) > debug2: we sent a password packet, wait for reply > debug1: Authentication succeeded (password). > debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] > debug3: ssh_session2_open: channel_new: 0 > debug2: channel 0: send open > debug1: Entering interactive session. > debug2: callback start > debug2: client_session2_setup: id 0 > debug2: channel 0: request pty-req confirm 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: ospeed 38400 > debug3: tty_make_modes: ispeed 38400 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 1 3 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 2 28 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 3 127 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 4 21 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 5 4 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 6 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 7 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 8 17 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 9 19 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 10 26 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 12 18 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 13 23 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 14 22 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 18 15 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 30 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 31 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 32 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 33 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 34 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 35 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 36 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 37 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 38 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 39 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 40 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 41 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 50 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 51 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 52 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 53 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 54 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 55 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 56 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 57 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 58 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 59 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 60 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 61 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 62 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 70 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 71 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 72 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 73 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 74 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 75 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 90 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 91 1 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 92 0 > debug3: tty_make_modes: 93 0 > debug1: Sending environment. > debug3: Ignored env HOSTNAME > debug3: Ignored env TERM > debug3: Ignored env SHELL > debug3: Ignored env HISTSIZE > debug3: Ignored env SSH_CLIENT > debug3: Ignored env CVSROOT > debug3: Ignored env SSH_TTY > debug3: Ignored env USER > debug3: Ignored env LS_COLORS > debug3: Ignored env MAIL > debug3: Ignored env PATH > debug3: Ignored env INPUTRC > debug3: Ignored env PWD > debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8 > debug2: channel 0: request env confirm 0 > debug3: Ignored env SSH_ASKPASS > debug3: Ignored env SHLVL > debug3: Ignored env HOME > debug3: Ignored env LOGNAME > debug3: Ignored env CVS_RSH > debug3: Ignored env SSH_CONNECTION > debug3: Ignored env LESSOPEN > debug3: Ignored env G_BROKEN_FILENAMES > debug3: Ignored env _ > debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 0 > debug2: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY > debug2: callback done > debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 > debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072 > Last login: Mon Aug 11 11:46:46 2008 from 169.236.129.235 > > From outside the network I get: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:]$ ssh -vvv [EMAIL PROTECTED] > OpenSSH_4.4p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7l 28 Sep 2006 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 > debug1: Connecting to madrid.ucmerced.edu [169.236.129.234] port 22. > > > just hangs there and no password. > > > In the messages log I am getting: > > Aug 11 11:39:32 madrid sshd[3899]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 > failed: Address already in use. > Aug 11 11:39:34 madrid sshd[3761]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session > closed for user joseph > Aug 11 11:40:39 madrid sshd[3903]: Accepted password for joseph from > 169.236.129.235 port 52030 ssh2 > Aug 11 11:40:39 madrid sshd[3903]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session > opened for user joseph by (uid=0) > Aug 11 11:41:30 madrid sudo: joseph : TTY=pts/1 ; PWD=/home/joseph ; > USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/bash > Aug 11 11:46:46 madrid sshd[4536]: Accepted password for joseph from > 169.236.129.235 port 54462 ssh2 > Aug 11 11:46:46 madrid sshd[4536]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session > opened for user joseph by (uid=0) > Aug 11 11:46:48 madrid sshd[4536]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session > closed for user joseph > Aug 11 11:48:35 madrid sshd[4606]: Accepted password for joseph from > 169.236.129.235 port 38358 ssh2 > Aug 11 11:48:35 madrid sshd[4606]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session > opened for user joseph by (uid=0) > > > and nothing registered from login on the outside - no password and then > times out. > > > > Greenseid, Joseph M. wrote: > >> very strange. one last question about the hosts file. the network setup >> section of the install guide recommends separating the localhost name and >> actual hostname into two separate lines in the hosts file before starting >> the installation. did you do this before you started the install? if not, >> i wonder if that had something to do with things getting so mangled. >> >> anyway, if you fix it up, hopefully it'll all work fine. >> >> --Joe >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joseph Norris >> Sent: Mon 8/11/2008 2:26 PM >> To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar installed - tests run - problem withheadnode >> >> >> >> As you see the hosts file - this is how oscar left it. I did not begin >> looking at this or editing it until I discovered this issue and there >> was not an external IP in the hosts file. >> >> Greenseid, Joseph M. wrote: >> >> >>> oscar deleted the public address line from your hosts file? >>> >>> --Joe >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joseph Norris >>> Sent: Mon 8/11/2008 2:00 PM >>> To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar installed - tests run - problem >>> withheadnode >>> >>> >>> >>> This was the way oscar built my file and it was a bit odd to me also. I >>> have eth0 aimed at the outside IP address of 169.236.129.234. eth1 is >>> aimed at the nodes. Oscar built this host file in this way. I will >>> modify it but leave the compute nodes in place. >>> >>> Greenseid, Joseph M. wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> joseph, >>>> >>>> i had the same thought as donginn -- having "madrid.ucmerced.edu" on both >>>> the 127.0.0.1 line *AND* the 10.0.0.2 line may well be confusing the >>>> system. as a general rule, i've taken to having the first line of the >>>> hosts file be "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost" and that's it, >>>> and have the hostname on the line with the reachable IP addr. >>>> >>>> as for the ssh problems specifically, a verbose trace of the ssh >>>> connection may yield some more specific information than our best guess at >>>> the hosts file configuration -- try to add a "-v" to the ssh command and >>>> see where it's stalling out. >>>> >>>> also, how do you connect to this box from "outside?" from this hosts >>>> file, it looks like the head node has a 10. addr that it uses to talk to >>>> the cluster nodes, but no separate "public" facing address, as is >>>> customarily the case with clusters (a public facing addr on the head node, >>>> and a private network that the head node and all the compute nodes are on, >>>> so the compute nodes are not reachable directly from anywhere except >>>> inside the cluster). >>>> >>>> --Joe >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of DongInn Kim >>>> Sent: Mon 8/11/2008 1:08 PM >>>> To: oscar-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Oscar-users] Oscar installed - tests run - problem >>>> withheadnode >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Joseph, >>>> >>>> I don't know how to avoid the OSCAR sanity checking of network >>>> configuration(especially /etc/hosts) because OSCAR does not like to have >>>> any actual hostname rather than localhost.localdomain. >>>> >>>> http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/InstallGuideNetwork#NIC >>>> >>>> This is from the OSCAR install guide. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I am wondering if the 127.0.0.1 line caused the problem on your >>>> test. I am not really sure though. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> - DongInn >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph Norris wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I was able to get oscar totally installed, tests run, X11 issues >>>>> resolved etc... Now I have the following issue. >>>>> >>>>> On head node I have ssh open on my fire wall When I log in from another >>>>> box within my network it takes between 30-40 seconds to get a password >>>>> prompt and from outside I get no password prompt at all. I discussed >>>>> this with another sys admin and he suggested that I look at resolv.conf >>>>> - however this has the same structure as the other redhat servers that I >>>>> administrate and I can reach the just fine. >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering if my hosts file is correct? or how I should >>>>> trouble-shoot this issue? >>>>> >>>>> Hosts file: >>>>> 127.0.0.1 madrid.ucmerced.edu madrid localhost.localdomain >>>>> localhos >>>>> t >>>>> 10.0.0.2 madrid.ucmerced.edu oscar_server oscar_server >>>>> nfs_osca >>>>> r pbs_oscar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> # These entries are managed by SIS, please don't modify them. >>>>> 10.0.0.3 oscarnode1.ucmerced.edu oscarnode1 >>>>> 10.0.0.4 oscarnode2.ucmerced.edu oscarnode2 >>>>> 10.0.0.5 oscarnode3.ucmerced.edu oscarnode3 >>>>> 10.0.0.6 oscarnode4.ucmerced.edu oscarnode4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the 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