On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <[email protected]> wrote: > btw i dont get it about NASA and FBI? what it has relation to your topic > now? > > dare to share? > > about those fbi.org or nasa.org... are you "cybersquatting"?
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting Nasa is using Plone, FBI is also using Plone .. and I working on / contribute codes to some Plone Products if you are asking about my current Plone related projects, it would be UN related. Currently trying to cleanup some codes to push upstream.. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> u need to learn more about park domain dude. being as an upstream >> contributor as developer not the same as expert in other knowledge. hahaha. >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Izhar Firdaus <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > so what the hack with gula-gula hack? >>> > apa kena mengena dgn nasa atau fbi tu? >>> > >>> > sorry dude, upstream its not place for me. if your project is for FBI >>> > and >>> > NASA, good for you then. >>> > >>> > maybe our place is not your playground. we only help small community. >>> > anak-anak yatim and etc. >>> > >>> > if you always have copy paste error... i do hope you didn't just COPY >>> > and >>> > PASTE your UPSTREAM code and at the end, all are wrong. haha. >>> > >>> > btw don't blame TM. they have nothing to do with park domain. you >>> > should >>> > learn about parkdomain before blaim TM. same goes with everything, dont >>> > just >>> > simply blame others for your mistake. >>> >>> well .. before this they simply fail saying "Nonexistent Domain" .. >>> but now they direct stuff to some weird sites .. not sure on other dns >>> server though .. as I dont get that on my current dns server .. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > are u kiddin me with those website? >>> >> > hahaha... all are parkdomain site. earning adsense from those search >>> >> > and >>> >> > domain name keyword... it that an upstream project? >>> >> > what a lame dude! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> haha .. my bad .. I simply typed it our of memory .. it should be >>> >> >>> >> http://www.nasa.gov/ >>> >> http://www.fbi.org/ >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your >>> >> >> > upstream >>> >> >> > project instead use others. >>> >> >> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies >>> >> >> >>> >> >> www.fbi.org >>> >> >> www.nasa.org >>> >> >> >>> >> >> and many others ... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, >>> >> >> Fedora. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before >>> >> >> > poke >>> >> >> > others >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the >>> >> >> >> >> downstream >>> >> >> >> >> aka >>> >> >> >> >> local >>> >> >> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; >>> >> >> >> >> seumpama >>> >> >> >> >> semua >>> >> >> >> >> org >>> >> >> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, >>> >> >> >> >> so >>> >> >> >> >> kotor >>> >> >> >> >> la >>> >> >> >> >> tempat2 local nie. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my >>> >> >> >> > game. >>> >> >> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they >>> >> >> >> > lead >>> >> >> >> > themselves to. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >>> >> >> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to >>> >> >> >> other >>> >> >> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> > go >>> >> >> >> > upstream. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >>> >> >> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go >>> >> >> >> >>> > back >>> >> >> >> >>> > to >>> >> >> >> >>> > coding. >>> >> >> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good >>> >> >> >> >>> for >>> >> >> >> >>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> rest >>> >> >> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for >>> >> >> >> >>> locals. >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> > :) >>> >> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > reply, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > said >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > know >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > can >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > explain >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > about it. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should >>> >> >> >> >>> >> I ? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> coding >>> >> >> >> >>> >> .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > history? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > i >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > will be >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > please if >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> himself >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> look >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> into >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Samsudin >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > for >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > you. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> list >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> look at >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> header >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > years. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > get >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > info >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i'm >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > doing >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > business >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > or >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > time >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Samsudin >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > masuk >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > things? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > We >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > knowledge >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > achieve >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> wonder >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> find >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> arguing >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> which >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I've >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > still >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ALL >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > knowledge >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all. i >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> fear >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > longer >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > thing >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ask >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for a >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > who >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > effort >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Firdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> azsnal >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> or >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> oven >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Champion" or >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> people >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> made >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> by >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> disguise, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> true >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> without >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ahead >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> approach >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> at a >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lim >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> passionate >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> see >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> worldwide. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> towards >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> All >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ambil >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> biasa >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> adempiere >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> pengalaman, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> idea >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tapi >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> errors, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> achieved >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> goat >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> at >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> source >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> many >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> exploited >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> way. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> free >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan! >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 8A5D >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7331 >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> 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