On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Izhar Firdaus <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Izhar Firdaus <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> btw i dont get it about NASA and FBI? what it has relation to your topic >>> now? >>> >>> dare to share? >>> >>> about those fbi.org or nasa.org... are you "cybersquatting"? >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting > > on more checks, I guess thats a genuine cybersquatting case .. > > admitted , its my fault for not knowing tmnet not doing that silly > advertisement for not found domain anymore ... didnt use their DNS > server since they started doing that .. so i thought they are still > doing it ..
wait .. or was that UTP's DNS server doing that ... aaa .. nevm .. memory messed up already .. /me goes too sleep > >> >> >> Nasa is using Plone, FBI is also using Plone .. and I working on / >> contribute codes to some Plone Products >> >> if you are asking about my current Plone related projects, it would be >> UN related. Currently trying to cleanup some codes to push upstream.. >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> u need to learn more about park domain dude. being as an upstream >>>> contributor as developer not the same as expert in other knowledge. hahaha. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Izhar Firdaus <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > so what the hack with gula-gula hack? >>>>> > apa kena mengena dgn nasa atau fbi tu? >>>>> > >>>>> > sorry dude, upstream its not place for me. if your project is for FBI >>>>> > and >>>>> > NASA, good for you then. >>>>> > >>>>> > maybe our place is not your playground. we only help small community. >>>>> > anak-anak yatim and etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > if you always have copy paste error... i do hope you didn't just COPY >>>>> > and >>>>> > PASTE your UPSTREAM code and at the end, all are wrong. haha. >>>>> > >>>>> > btw don't blame TM. they have nothing to do with park domain. you >>>>> > should >>>>> > learn about parkdomain before blaim TM. same goes with everything, dont >>>>> > just >>>>> > simply blame others for your mistake. >>>>> >>>>> well .. before this they simply fail saying "Nonexistent Domain" .. >>>>> but now they direct stuff to some weird sites .. not sure on other dns >>>>> server though .. as I dont get that on my current dns server .. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> > are u kiddin me with those website? >>>>> >> > hahaha... all are parkdomain site. earning adsense from those search >>>>> >> > and >>>>> >> > domain name keyword... it that an upstream project? >>>>> >> > what a lame dude! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> haha .. my bad .. I simply typed it our of memory .. it should be >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.nasa.gov/ >>>>> >> http://www.fbi.org/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your >>>>> >> >> > upstream >>>>> >> >> > project instead use others. >>>>> >> >> > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> www.fbi.org >>>>> >> >> www.nasa.org >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> and many others ... >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, >>>>> >> >> Fedora. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before >>>>> >> >> > poke >>>>> >> >> > others >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the >>>>> >> >> >> >> downstream >>>>> >> >> >> >> aka >>>>> >> >> >> >> local >>>>> >> >> >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; >>>>> >> >> >> >> seumpama >>>>> >> >> >> >> semua >>>>> >> >> >> >> org >>>>> >> >> >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, >>>>> >> >> >> >> so >>>>> >> >> >> >> kotor >>>>> >> >> >> >> la >>>>> >> >> >> >> tempat2 local nie. >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people >>>>> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my >>>>> >> >> >> > game. >>>>> >> >> >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they >>>>> >> >> >> > lead >>>>> >> >> >> > themselves to. >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >>>>> >> >> >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to >>>>> >> >> >> other >>>>> >> >> >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want >>>>> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> > go >>>>> >> >> >> > upstream. >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > back >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > coding. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good >>>>> >> >> >> >>> for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> rest >>>>> >> >> >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> locals. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > :) >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > reply, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > said >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > know >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > can >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > explain >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > about it. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> I ? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> coding >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > history? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > i >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > will be >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > please if >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> himself >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> look >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> into >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > you. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> list >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> look at >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> To: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> header >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > years. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > get >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > info >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > i'm >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > doing >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > business >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > or >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > time >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > other >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Samsudin >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > masuk >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > things? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > We >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > knowledge >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > achieve >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> wonder >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> find >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> arguing >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> which >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I've >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > when >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > still >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > at >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ALL >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > MIGHT >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > knowledge >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > can >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all. i >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > may >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> fear >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > longer >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > an >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > thing >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ask >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for a >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > who >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > effort >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > think >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > Firdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> azsnal >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> or >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> oven >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Champion" or >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> people >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> made >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> by >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> disguise, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> true >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> without >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ahead >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> approach >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> at a >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lim >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> passionate >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> see >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> worldwide. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> striving >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> towards >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> All >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ambil >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> biasa >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> adempiere >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> coe >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> pengalaman, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> idea >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dan >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tapi >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> errors, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> belajar >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> achieved >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> goat >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> at >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Saba >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> source >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> many >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> famous >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> exploited >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> and >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> way. >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> free >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> makan! >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 8A5D >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7331 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> 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Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >>> -- >>>>> >> >> >> >>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> >> >> >>> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> >> >> >>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> >> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> >> >>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> >> >>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 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> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >>>>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >>>>> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >>>>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >>>>> 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