Brian,

A lot of the stuff are plucked from kaeru's figures...maybe it's time to ask
how he arrived at those numbers.

Eric


On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritc...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Azrul,
>
>   Great point raised in the last paragraph about more relevant studies. Do
> we have a detailed before and after statistic on this out of curiosity ?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA 
> <azrulha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I
>> have to bite.
>>
>> Disclaimer: I'm not trying to belittle OSCC here, it's just that I believe
>> that claims must be backed by facts, not just some numbers plucked from the
>> air (maybe the facts are there that I just couldn't find it, if so, please
>> point me to the right direction).
>>
>> My beef is this, how the heck do you get 70% from? just because a wannabe
>> geek inside a gov. office uses OOo suddenly the whole office is counted as
>> "adopting open source"? What about mixed environment, how do you count that?
>> What's the methodology? What about running OOo on Windows? is that
>> opensource or not?
>>
>> Things like these are important because it helps us to focus on what is
>> needed. I mean, FOSS (OSS/FLOSS/whatever) is supposed to be winning and yet
>> MS is laughing all the way to the bank with our tax money, what gives? The
>> next guy shouting "cybermerdeka!" would be laughed at and yet the gov still
>> kow-tow to Balmer like he's some enlighten being or something.
>>
>> Didn't someone say that the greatest achievement of the devil is to
>> convince the world he does not exist... not necessarily true, but...
>>
>> Note: a more relevant study would show how much licenses purchased say
>> last year compared to this year and how much we actually spend and how much
>> saving is done. I guess those numbers are just too depressing to be
>> released.
>>  Azrul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:
>>
>>>  Better bitch about our own country then pitch for the world. :)
>>>
>>> The world is taking notice of us > http://www.opensource.org/node/489
>>>
>>> Open Source Progress in Malaysia
>>> Thu, 2009-11-05 07:57 — Michael Tiemann
>>>
>>> Here are some stunning facts that were published at the end of July in
>>> Malaysia <http://www.asmmag.com/news/open-source-dominates-in-malaysia>:
>>>
>>> More than 70 percent of Malaysian government offices are running open
>>> source software, according to figures released by the country's Open Source
>>> Competency Centre.
>>>
>>> The centre was established as part of the 2004 Malaysian Public Sector
>>> OSS Master Plan, to guide and co-ordinate the implementation of OSS in the
>>> public sector.
>>>
>>> The latest OSS adoption figures, released on 24 July, show that 521 of
>>> the country's 724 public sector agencies (72 per cent) have adopted OSS.
>>> This is a significant increase from 354 agencies (49 percent) in 2008 and
>>> 163 (22.5 per cent) in 2007.
>>>
>>> Malaysia is certainly raising the bar in terms of open source adoption
>>> and leadership!
>>>
>>>    - Michael Tiemann's blog <http://www.opensource.org/blog/8>
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