Eric, I am sure we can get Kaeru to revert on this if it is indeed his figures. Kaeru has a good sense of economics based on our previous encounters so I am sure he has a valid source if so.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Brian, > > A lot of the stuff are plucked from kaeru's figures...maybe it's time to > ask how he arrived at those numbers. > > Eric > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > <esqbrianritc...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Azrul, >> >> Great point raised in the last paragraph about more relevant studies. Do >> we have a detailed before and after statistic on this out of curiosity ? >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA <azrulha...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I >>> have to bite. >>> >>> Disclaimer: I'm not trying to belittle OSCC here, it's just that I >>> believe that claims must be backed by facts, not just some numbers plucked >>> from the air (maybe the facts are there that I just couldn't find it, if so, >>> please point me to the right direction). >>> >>> My beef is this, how the heck do you get 70% from? just because a wannabe >>> geek inside a gov. office uses OOo suddenly the whole office is counted as >>> "adopting open source"? What about mixed environment, how do you count that? >>> What's the methodology? What about running OOo on Windows? is that >>> opensource or not? >>> >>> Things like these are important because it helps us to focus on what is >>> needed. I mean, FOSS (OSS/FLOSS/whatever) is supposed to be winning and yet >>> MS is laughing all the way to the bank with our tax money, what gives? The >>> next guy shouting "cybermerdeka!" would be laughed at and yet the gov still >>> kow-tow to Balmer like he's some enlighten being or something. >>> >>> Didn't someone say that the greatest achievement of the devil is to >>> convince the world he does not exist... not necessarily true, but... >>> >>> Note: a more relevant study would show how much licenses purchased say >>> last year compared to this year and how much we actually spend and how much >>> saving is done. I guess those numbers are just too depressing to be >>> released. >>> Azrul >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Better bitch about our own country then pitch for the world. :) >>>> >>>> The world is taking notice of us > http://www.opensource.org/node/489 >>>> >>>> Open Source Progress in Malaysia >>>> Thu, 2009-11-05 07:57 — Michael Tiemann >>>> >>>> Here are some stunning facts that were published at the end of July in >>>> Malaysia <http://www.asmmag.com/news/open-source-dominates-in-malaysia> >>>> : >>>> >>>> More than 70 percent of Malaysian government offices are running open >>>> source software, according to figures released by the country's Open Source >>>> Competency Centre. >>>> >>>> The centre was established as part of the 2004 Malaysian Public Sector >>>> OSS Master Plan, to guide and co-ordinate the implementation of OSS in the >>>> public sector. >>>> >>>> The latest OSS adoption figures, released on 24 July, show that 521 of >>>> the country's 724 public sector agencies (72 per cent) have adopted OSS. >>>> This is a significant increase from 354 agencies (49 percent) in 2008 and >>>> 163 (22.5 per cent) in 2007. >>>> >>>> Malaysia is certainly raising the bar in terms of open source adoption >>>> and leadership! >>>> >>>> - Michael Tiemann's blog <http://www.opensource.org/blog/8> >>>> - >>>> Login<http://www.opensource.org/user/login?destination=comment/reply/489%2523comment-form>or >>>> >>>> register<http://www.opensource.org/user/register?destination=comment/reply/489%2523comment-form>to >>>> post comments >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>>> >>>> Facebook Fan page >>>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> >>>> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >>> >>> Facebook Fan page >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> >>> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >>> >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. 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