Brian, I am sure he does. Since I was in R&D and now in Training, I never really got around looking at the numbers properly.
Although I can never attest to its authenticity (or otherwise), from my experience dealing with agencies, there is seems to be a genuine interest in FOSS. As mentioned, I only fear that they will alway associate FOSS with Free as in cost rather than in Freedom. Eric On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritc...@gmail.com>wrote: > Eric, > > I am sure we can get Kaeru to revert on this if it is indeed his figures. > Kaeru has a good sense of economics based on our previous encounters so I am > sure he has a valid source if so. > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Brian, >> >> A lot of the stuff are plucked from kaeru's figures...maybe it's time to >> ask how he arrived at those numbers. >> >> Eric >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE <esqbrianritc...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Azrul, >>> >>> Great point raised in the last paragraph about more relevant studies. >>> Do we have a detailed before and after statistic on this out of curiosity ? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA < >>> azrulha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I >>>> have to bite. >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: I'm not trying to belittle OSCC here, it's just that I >>>> believe that claims must be backed by facts, not just some numbers plucked >>>> from the air (maybe the facts are there that I just couldn't find it, if >>>> so, >>>> please point me to the right direction). >>>> >>>> My beef is this, how the heck do you get 70% from? just because a >>>> wannabe geek inside a gov. office uses OOo suddenly the whole office is >>>> counted as "adopting open source"? What about mixed environment, how do you >>>> count that? What's the methodology? What about running OOo on Windows? is >>>> that opensource or not? >>>> >>>> Things like these are important because it helps us to focus on what is >>>> needed. I mean, FOSS (OSS/FLOSS/whatever) is supposed to be winning and yet >>>> MS is laughing all the way to the bank with our tax money, what gives? The >>>> next guy shouting "cybermerdeka!" would be laughed at and yet the gov still >>>> kow-tow to Balmer like he's some enlighten being or something. >>>> >>>> Didn't someone say that the greatest achievement of the devil is to >>>> convince the world he does not exist... not necessarily true, but... >>>> >>>> Note: a more relevant study would show how much licenses purchased say >>>> last year compared to this year and how much we actually spend and how much >>>> saving is done. I guess those numbers are just too depressing to be >>>> released. >>>> Azrul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:54 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Better bitch about our own country then pitch for the world. :) >>>>> >>>>> The world is taking notice of us > http://www.opensource.org/node/489 >>>>> >>>>> Open Source Progress in Malaysia >>>>> Thu, 2009-11-05 07:57 — Michael Tiemann >>>>> >>>>> Here are some stunning facts that were published at the end of July in >>>>> Malaysia<http://www.asmmag.com/news/open-source-dominates-in-malaysia> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> More than 70 percent of Malaysian government offices are running open >>>>> source software, according to figures released by the country's Open >>>>> Source >>>>> Competency Centre. >>>>> >>>>> The centre was established as part of the 2004 Malaysian Public Sector >>>>> OSS Master Plan, to guide and co-ordinate the implementation of OSS in the >>>>> public sector. >>>>> >>>>> The latest OSS adoption figures, released on 24 July, show that 521 of >>>>> the country's 724 public sector agencies (72 per cent) have adopted OSS. >>>>> This is a significant increase from 354 agencies (49 percent) in 2008 and >>>>> 163 (22.5 per cent) in 2007. >>>>> >>>>> Malaysia is certainly raising the bar in terms of open source adoption >>>>> and leadership! 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