On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:53 PM, red1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> i tend to agree loudly to this Brian, but my pitch is that if Malaysia wants
> to be no.1 Govt has to interfere correctly.

I humbly diagree. As Entrepreneurs, we don't need anything more than
tax exemption. I believe the Gov does grant that for some startups
that perform well though currently I think its tied to the grant
scheme which I do not favor.

> We are not a top world economy. Tun Dr. Mahathir applied that principle of
> guided (read interference) very well to put us up there.
> No European country has an MDec like ours. It is there to arrest the slow
> process (USA took 200 years) of going thru evolution.
> We are not going to repeat wars and market crashes to reach where USA is
> today. We learnt from their past and thus M'sia has the benefit of
> hindsight, and MDec can do wonders if it applys the right pedals to the
> right rubber.

I disagree. Evolution as a whole relies not only in the hands of one
organization (MDec in this case - no offense to Rafe agn). People have
to evolve and change the mindset. Our first thoughts when encountering
a problem is, which agency to blame, etc etc. The Government has to
evolve to meet the need and growth of the public and the Internet has
enabled us. We are now without boundaries. So as we keep pushing, they
will be forced to move and evolve ( this is in the same metaphor that
we r not evolved. Not implying that we r backward). Honestly, I would
not engage the Gov and hope for them or any agency to start or push
something. Private companies are the usual experimenters that
influence the Gov. When you have giants pushing through and saying,
look, we need this done, they will move b/c they can't afford not too.

>
> I am frustrated with simple stuff:
> 1. When IAP still features kuailohs instead of us M'sians. This is not to
> ask for grants. This is not even to ask for recognition. But this is just to
> ask to stop this nonsense of looking up to others that now we have our own
> goat and mutton. This is asking for pride where pride is due. This does
> wonders if you put some Malaysians up there where their words can inspire
> more than just thru the inside pages of TheStar's Intech.

Westeners are employed because of the Asian mentality that we are
inherently weak and not as good as them. While this may be partially
true, it is not always the aspect. More often than not, Western
companies are engaged because they have

a) They have well documented processes and project management skills
which most of our local groups pale in comparison
b) They have no choice but to play by the book because a lawsuit would
affect their International reputation which means we get the job done
within the said time. Local implementations more often than not tend
to have issues and yes I have seen this in much larger scale
c) <Politically> This is practiced in large companies where Westerners
r hired to convince Management and to have a blame shifter if the
project turns sour.

>
> 2. MDec asked for help but do not change the rules of the game. Today the
> game is fast-changing with its attendant processes to achieve it. We need
> not copy and paste from Singapore nor Silicon Valley. Honestly i do not see
> any borang gomen that is original. I can show you lots of principles in used
> by 1st world nations that are mind boggling. No, not that i am asking to be
> deported to those fascinating countries. I am just asking, 'learn from
> others in order to overtake them'. Nope, i m not saying 'copycat them'. I am
> saying look at the rules. We can change them well when it comes to us.
>

Again to my point. Reliance on MDeC is not warranted. While I think
its great what they r doing, I do not per say think we should be so
heavily reliant on them. If Entrepreneurs go out there and build their
own businesses without grants and prove that the model works, the
grant model will then be slowly phased out of existence b/c the Gov
and Agencies would realise that there is actually no need for them to
keep spoonfeeding the public but instead play catchup instead.

-BRIAN RITCHIE

> In the end, i have a dream:
> "Where Malaysia need not follow others to get there. Where Malaysia dares to
> break the rules yet is correct in the end. Where Malaysia can win, win in
> its own Blue Ocean".
>
> Rafe,
> I am still at a lost why you suddenly blow up. I never mentioned your name.
> It was Raja Iskandar who hentam more keras than me. I do not even know that
> your CEO is who actually. They fill me in. To me i do not care and i dont
> want to know. All i want to know is when do you want to get into the bull
> ring and score your own KPI of '5 top world class developers'. I been
> waiting. waiting since last year. I kept going to the MDec cafe and sms you
> hoping to discuss progressively. Remember our last sit-in last year where
> Azrul, Raja, Boh and you (with Rozi) was around and you told me lots of
> stuff such as "Hacking contest with USD10k prize" and i pour out free as in
> no need to pay me ideas - all in the name of helping u and MDec. I never
> talk about getting me paid or make me look good. I talked until hoarse about
> making Malaysia look good.
>
> Sincerely if you blew up tak tentu pasal again, i am going to personally go
> there and kick your ass till the Pau Lady poster drops down.
>
> Don't make this into a personal war cos it is not. Think of our country
> together or else fuck it!
>
> On 5/19/10 5:26 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote:
>>
>> Let me say this. The biggest underlying problem with Malaysian
>> "Technopreneurs" is the reliance on Gov to provide you with funding.
>> While I think its great that the Gov gives out such grants, my
>> personal believe is that they shouldn't. Not at all. To no one, no
>> matter how great your idea is. This causes the exact situation we r
>> seeing here where people who get it sometimes abuse it ( or not) and
>> people who don't whine ( or not ). What happened to the real spirit of
>> Entrepreneurship ? What happened to starving days and running around
>> to get your idea across to VCs and selling your services.
>>
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