mesdames et messieurs, if any lines are drawn i'll be standing the same line as Brian...
just a thought, no batteries included ... :) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:31 PM, rafe azsnal <[email protected]> wrote: > red1, i am and still working for mdec, what ever it is when one say > something bad about mdec i just got to defensive mode when i need to > protect the company i am working with. i dont care if any of u attack > me personally or not it just me. but when it go as far as this i feel > it is my responsibility to protect it. as i have done to you time and > time again. red1 i always treat you as my friend and you are still my > friend and you know i'll help you till the limit of my authority. i > hope every one of you here realize that all of us are just plain human > being where we make mistake every second of the day and hoping we > learn from there. > > if you coming to mdec to kick my arse please do so tuan and i will > surely kick your arse back again. :) > > On 5/19/10, red1 <[email protected]> wrote: > > i tend to agree loudly to this Brian, but my pitch is that if Malaysia > > wants to be no.1 Govt has to interfere correctly. > > We are not a top world economy. Tun Dr. Mahathir applied that principle > > of guided (read interference) very well to put us up there. > > No European country has an MDec like ours. It is there to arrest the > > slow process (USA took 200 years) of going thru evolution. > > We are not going to repeat wars and market crashes to reach where USA is > > today. We learnt from their past and thus M'sia has the benefit of > > hindsight, and MDec can do wonders if it applys the right pedals to the > > right rubber. > > > > I am frustrated with simple stuff: > > 1. When IAP still features kuailohs instead of us M'sians. This is not > > to ask for grants. This is not even to ask for recognition. But this is > > just to ask to stop this nonsense of looking up to others that now we > > have our own goat and mutton. This is asking for pride where pride is > > due. This does wonders if you put some Malaysians up there where their > > words can inspire more than just thru the inside pages of TheStar's > Intech. > > > > 2. MDec asked for help but do not change the rules of the game. Today > > the game is fast-changing with its attendant processes to achieve it. We > > need not copy and paste from Singapore nor Silicon Valley. Honestly i do > > not see any borang gomen that is original. I can show you lots of > > principles in used by 1st world nations that are mind boggling. No, not > > that i am asking to be deported to those fascinating countries. I am > > just asking, 'learn from others in order to overtake them'. Nope, i m > > not saying 'copycat them'. I am saying look at the rules. We can change > > them well when it comes to us. > > > > In the end, i have a dream: > > "Where Malaysia need not follow others to get there. Where Malaysia > > dares to break the rules yet is correct in the end. Where Malaysia can > > win, win in its own Blue Ocean". > > > > Rafe, > > I am still at a lost why you suddenly blow up. I never mentioned your > > name. It was Raja Iskandar who hentam more keras than me. I do not even > > know that your CEO is who actually. They fill me in. To me i do not care > > and i dont want to know. All i want to know is when do you want to get > > into the bull ring and score your own KPI of '5 top world class > > developers'. I been waiting. waiting since last year. I kept going to > > the MDec cafe and sms you hoping to discuss progressively. Remember our > > last sit-in last year where Azrul, Raja, Boh and you (with Rozi) was > > around and you told me lots of stuff such as "Hacking contest with > > USD10k prize" and i pour out free as in no need to pay me ideas - all in > > the name of helping u and MDec. I never talk about getting me paid or > > make me look good. I talked until hoarse about making Malaysia look good. > > > > Sincerely if you blew up tak tentu pasal again, i am going to personally > > go there and kick your ass till the Pau Lady poster drops down. > > > > Don't make this into a personal war cos it is not. Think of our country > > together or else fuck it! > > > > On 5/19/10 5:26 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote: > >> Let me say this. The biggest underlying problem with Malaysian > >> "Technopreneurs" is the reliance on Gov to provide you with funding. > >> While I think its great that the Gov gives out such grants, my > >> personal believe is that they shouldn't. Not at all. To no one, no > >> matter how great your idea is. This causes the exact situation we r > >> seeing here where people who get it sometimes abuse it ( or not) and > >> people who don't whine ( or not ). What happened to the real spirit of > >> Entrepreneurship ? 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