Azrul,
Quite selfish there, aint it? But do consider, if there are too few
Java devs out there, which is the case, it dampens the market and
substitute skills are sought in the egg and chick story. That is why
many go for PHp cos jobs abound for that. Why? Cos there are more PHp
people. :) (Will update my resume and try again bro. I need to sell my
freedom to the highest bidder)
On 3/1/11 9:55 AM, Azrul MADISA wrote:
Yeah, I also think that the F word is so uncalled for. My
blog is a bit provocative, sure, but I tried to be civil.
My main thesis that MDeC did practically nothing to promote Java
despite Java being the king maker is based on my investigation. Not
happy? please attack my thesis, not my being.
And as stated I'm not a failure, neither are the Java devs out
there. (The stats prove that). We're not blaming MDeC for this non
existing failure. We want MDeC to promote Java for the benefit of the
country as a whole. In fact, personally I would probably benefit more
if MDeC does not promote Java, less Java devs means my skills will be
more sought after and hence more salary. But, I rather provoke MDeC to
take action for the nation.
Again, not happy, write a blog, no cursing pls.
Azrul
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:55 AM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Salam
All,
Yes is no fun being me hence all the F words.. but ontop of the F words
I don't trow any names in my email nor trying to get sympathy. Nor to
provoke certain individual. Never was my attention.
Even with the small budget that we have we tried our best to make it
what it is where one of the outcomes is all of us being here at one
place where we bitch! And we share knowledge. How many awareness
programme that the community has successfully put in place and how many
new members has it attracted? And how many corporation and university
has started to belived that OSS is an alternative to choose from. And
the community has started in order to grow bigger and stronger. Ask
yourself this.. what have you contributed so far? I don't see this as a
failure I can't change what already in the past but what I can do is
the present and the future.
As bad as it seem to be Malaysia is the only country who supported OSS
publicly and funded it community, community not companies where we have
went to hell and back making the justification, and we put our neck on
the line and our comfort zone to belived what you belived. And on top
if that we put our 5 figure salary on the line too, we don't need to do
this but we did it anyway because we belived! As simple as that.
And you on the star in tech, in what way that we leverage on the piece?
We don't carried it all over the places we don't even claims that the
news was ours, the mileage for that news is only for you and you alone
and only you benefits from it, how can you said that we used you where
all the arrangements was made you. We were never involve in it at all.
Again people we lives in a country where paper and borang is necessary,
is it so bad just to fill a few form for us to see what you have
planned and how are you going to make it happened? We don't lend you
the money we giving away without interest regardless if it fail later
on due to whatever. Name me one organization outside the country that
are doing this?
Am I so wrong that I pointed out the necessary? The rest and test is
totally up to you, hope you learn from it and benefits from it too.
Salam..
Regards
//Rafe
Sent from my HTC
----- Reply message -----
From: "red1" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 5:38 am
Subject: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?
To: < [email protected]>
Not that i want to defend Azrul here, hmm, come to
think of it, i am
defending him here. Ok here goes Tahrir Square slogan 1.
Azrul is not a failure. He is a grad from France. He worked at Sun. He
is a Java expert. He knows its architecture. I seen him work. Ok, that
part a bit misguided. If i can see and _understand_ how he worked that
is.
He is working for a private firm at the moment, not MDec, and thus is
not answerable ethically to tax-payers money. He is paid 5 figures. He
gets to have playstation at work. Ok that part is not jealousy. That 5
figure is. His subject area is in BI. Ok just to throw some heavy words
that only Raja Iskandar can understand.
Now he told me once before, he offered MDec free, as in free lunch Java
coaching sessions for generasi muda to stop the brain drain and he
wants
to do it based on Open Source so that they do not go work for gomen or
someone ELSE. So they get a fighting chance.
But after some years, he was not appreciated, and i found him holed up
in CyberJaya MMU incubator slot doing freelance stuff, thats before he
gets the playstation job.
Now i think, that is what he feels. It is a failure of MDec to take up
opportunities, real ones. Not those meted out by Microsoft, Dell, HP,
and Oracle and other property agents. Yes, i heard and seen and even
participated in MDec's meagre spending for FOSS and Java training. It
is
not your fault to be given such a low-class budget and low lip service
by the policy maker. That is our contention that this is not personal
but policy. Ini bukan soal peribadi, tetapi soal dasar atasan.
I feel i am also been used by MDec. They talked about me to the Star
and
get a good billing for it, and the public thought MDec is doing a good
job and not just brought about a Pau lady and a pau orang sini sana.
They really help produced a world class SourceForge project. Well, you
are hearing it from me, the founding leader of the top 5 SF projects in
the world. MDec blew my offer and i doubt whether they even understand
or have any idea what it is. Cos ADempiere HQ lies in Berlin, when it
could have been KL. Is it my failure? How can we move here when there
aint even enough Azruls? When any grant consideration for FOSS must be
based on commercial consideration first be fore innovative ones? Is it
so wrong to speak our minds on this? Must we isi borang and have a
marathon series of meetings just to get the message across?
Please, read carefully. I did not use a single 'F" word. Ok, ok, i did
use an 'F' letter, but it was for defence.
Have a nice day.
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