Wondering why people think that am attacking azrul or java? Weird... I don't.
is just that I see every blame was directed to MDeC... alright lah blame the organization I eagerly want to see what would the after effect be. See if they actually care.. All the people have fun.. Sent from my HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "Azrul MADISA" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 9:55 am Subject: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE? To: <[email protected]> Yeah, I also think that the F word is so uncalled for. My blog is a bit provocative, sure, but I tried to be civil. My main thesis that MDeC did practically nothing to promote Java despite Java being the king maker is based on my investigation. Not happy? please attack my thesis, not my being. And as stated I'm not a failure, neither are the Java devs out there. (The stats prove that). We're not blaming MDeC for this non existing failure. We want MDeC to promote Java for the benefit of the country as a whole. In fact, personally I would probably benefit more if MDeC does not promote Java, less Java devs means my skills will be more sought after and hence more salary. But, I rather provoke MDeC to take action for the nation. Again, not happy, write a blog, no cursing pls. Azrul On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:55 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Salam All, > > Yes is no fun being me hence all the F words.. but ontop of the F words I > don't trow any names in my email nor trying to get sympathy. Nor to provoke > certain individual. Never was my attention. > > Even with the small budget that we have we tried our best to make it what > it is where one of the outcomes is all of us being here at one place where > we bitch! And we share knowledge. How many awareness programme that the > community has successfully put in place and how many new members has it > attracted? And how many corporation and university has started to belived > that OSS is an alternative to choose from. And the community has started in > order to grow bigger and stronger. Ask yourself this.. what have you > contributed so far? I don't see this as a failure I can't change what > already in the past but what I can do is the present and the future. > > As bad as it seem to be Malaysia is the only country who supported OSS > publicly and funded it community, community not companies where we have went > to hell and back making the justification, and we put our neck on the line > and our comfort zone to belived what you belived. And on top if that we put > our 5 figure salary on the line too, we don't need to do this but we did it > anyway because we belived! As simple as that. > > And you on the star in tech, in what way that we leverage on the piece? We > don't carried it all over the places we don't even claims that the news was > ours, the mileage for that news is only for you and you alone and only you > benefits from it, how can you said that we used you where all the > arrangements was made you. We were never involve in it at all. > > Again people we lives in a country where paper and borang is necessary, is > it so bad just to fill a few form for us to see what you have planned and > how are you going to make it happened? We don't lend you the money we giving > away without interest regardless if it fail later on due to whatever. Name > me one organization outside the country that are doing this? > > Am I so wrong that I pointed out the necessary? The rest and test is > totally up to you, hope you learn from it and benefits from it too. > > Salam.. > > Regards > //Rafe > > Sent from my HTC > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "red1" <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 5:38 am > > Subject: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE? > To: <[email protected]> > > Not that i want to defend Azrul here, hmm, come to think of it, i am > defending him here. Ok here goes Tahrir Square slogan 1. > > Azrul is not a failure. He is a grad from France. He worked at Sun. He > is a Java expert. He knows its architecture. I seen him work. Ok, that > part a bit misguided. If i can see and _understand_ how he worked that is. > > He is working for a private firm at the moment, not MDec, and thus is > not answerable ethically to tax-payers money. He is paid 5 figures. He > gets to have playstation at work. Ok that part is not jealousy. That 5 > figure is. His subject area is in BI. Ok just to throw some heavy words > that only Raja Iskandar can understand. > > Now he told me once before, he offered MDec free, as in free lunch Java > coaching sessions for generasi muda to stop the brain drain and he wants > to do it based on Open Source so that they do not go work for gomen or > someone ELSE. So they get a fighting chance. > > But after some years, he was not appreciated, and i found him holed up > in CyberJaya MMU incubator slot doing freelance stuff, thats before he > gets the playstation job. > > Now i think, that is what he feels. It is a failure of MDec to take up > opportunities, real ones. Not those meted out by Microsoft, Dell, HP, > and Oracle and other property agents. Yes, i heard and seen and even > participated in MDec's meagre spending for FOSS and Java training. It is > not your fault to be given such a low-class budget and low lip service > by the policy maker. That is our contention that this is not personal > but policy. Ini bukan soal peribadi, tetapi soal dasar atasan. > > I feel i am also been used by MDec. They t -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
