with RM50 mil, Tricube can be "saved" from delisting from Bursa Malaysia. ooopss, is this confidential information?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi all, > > Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else > proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it. > (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that > easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit > them to? > > Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs, > but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is > involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How? > > Here, < > http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583 > > > > it says > > "Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP) > teams, > to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are > supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised > MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar > criteria." > > hmm... they must be technically competent. > > The justification it seems: > > "Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g. > yahoo, > hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the > government." > > Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good > Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent > like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I > believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate > Authority, yes? > > But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?), > the concept of email is so.... yesterday. If you want to foster better > relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much > better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And > things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS > tools that are available. > > > > > It would be an interesting collaborative exercise: > > Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as > mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC. > Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a > fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a > methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using > interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project. > That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and > also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and > expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc... > > In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of > course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is > to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then > grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much > larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes. > > Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under > Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under > Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education, > Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and > Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran > <mfazliaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I love malaysia. :) > > > > Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various > > feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP > for. > > I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public > fund > > but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to > > make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our > > community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give > > good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? > Who? > > > > Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the > project > > but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and > > propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. > > > > What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We > have > > many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, > intan, > > unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. > > > > If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many > various > > level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we > > still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. > > > > If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why > > must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to > blame > > our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many > people > > done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice > as > > one. > > > > As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the > fund > > 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are > > behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like > use > > hotmail muahahahaha. > > > > Best Regards, > > Mohd Fazli Azran > > > > Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Hanxue Lee <leehan...@gmail.com> > > Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 > > To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com> > > ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure > > Email Server > > Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service > > (email) which is already well established in the private sector. > > The article did say > > "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure > > communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new > > one-stop web portal for government services." > > To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a > one-stop > > solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar > to > > Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ? > > > > Best regards, > > Hanxue > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness <darxl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> phew...50m.... > >> > >> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they > >> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way > >> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector > >> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server > >> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist. > >> > >> maybe someone should poke "him"..... > >> > >> if i got that job,50m.....i will_____.:D > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there, > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/ > >> > > >> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the > >> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the > >> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..." > >> > > >> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services > >> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter > >> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers > >> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data.... > >> > > >> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use?? > >> > > >> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??! > >> > > >> > <quote> > >> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service > >> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the > >> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free > >> > email provider, Google Inc. > >> > </quote> > >> > > >> > <quote> > >> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic > >> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by > >> > 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross > >> > national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will > >> > enhance delivery of public services. > >> > </quote> > >> > > >> > Well, well, well..... something funny is going on. > >> > There are perfectly good FLOSS email software, crypto tools etc... and > >> > we (among OSDC) certainly have the manpower & skills to implement and > >> > deploy such solutions. > >> > > >> > Even if a 'bunch of FLOSS' developers cannot do so immediately, giving > >> > funding to the community will allow them to build the skills and > >> > knowledge within 1 year, to do so; and have that knowledge shared and > >> > benefiting a larger community rather than 1 single company! > >> > > >> > And can we do this with 1m, no problem! Even if you spend another 1-5m > >> > for HW ( 1m will buy about 160 or 4 racks full of 1u servers, which > >> > is enough to build a decent cloud...), and even if we DOUBLE all those > >> > numbers, that figure won't go anywhere near 50m! > >> > > >> > A quick look at their website, <http://www.tricubes.com> shows they > >> > are using IIS-6.0, not exactly a very secure option. A quick google > >> > found this bit: > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://cyberinsecure.com/microsoft-iis6-vulnerability-exposes-websites-sensitive-files-and-passwords/ > >> > > >> > <quote> > >> > Microsoft IIS6 Vulnerability Exposes Website’s Sensitive Files And > >> > Passwords > >> > > >> > Security experts are urging administrators using Microsoft’s Internet > >> > Information Services version 6 to exercise extreme care following the > >> > discovery that the popular web server is vulnerable to a simple attack > >> > that exposes password-protected files and folders. > >> > ... > >> > </quote> > >> > > >> > and they have a shopping cart running on the site, on IIS 6.0?, I hope > >> > not. > >> > > >> > > >> > Would you trust your data with MS?? I won't. > >> > > >> > What do the rest of you guys say? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > IIS 6.0 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > #------- > >> > regds, > >> > > >> > Boh Heong, Yap > >> > > >> > -- > >> > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > >> > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > >> > > >> > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > >> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > >> > >> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ > > > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ > -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
