Huh, i didn't even  know, there was a difference, thanks.
That's why my english mother-in-law always turns red when i was trying to praise her food :)

Ralf.

Ubi De Feo wrote:

I guess ralf meant "awesome", not "awful", because that's what FDT looks like. At the moment I'm just a starter, but I accomplish better results on FAMES day by day.
I like this new way of working, and probably will buy FDT when it's out.
my workflow would be seriously improved, and this is key when you have big projects and short time.

anyway...
ASDT stays great and will keep getting better.
FDT is something we haven't had a real chance to try
time will tell

congratulations to both teams

ciao.ubi



On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:37 PM, Ralf Bokelberg wrote:

Hi Carlo,
i appreciate your efforts to create a better eclipse plugin. FDT looks really awful and is a serious competitor of ASDT. It will surely be of great influence on the development of ASDT.

Just to get one thing straight:

[quote]
We were together with Ralf the first programmers on ASDT besides Peter Schreiber. ... and I think that pushed ASDT for miles.
[/quote]

The founder of the project and author of most of the ASDT's code is Peter Schreiber. Even if Nico contributed some code, he surely would not insist on calling his influence like "pushing ASDT for miles". In fact, without ASDT, FDT would have never been happen. It would be nice, to acknowledge this fact.

Anyway, i'm looking forward to final Version of FDT.

Cheers,
Ralf


Carlo Blatz wrote:


Hi OSFlashers,
time to say something, he? :) I'm Carlo owner of Powerflasher and so one of the guys behind FDT. In the name of the full team - I thank you for the big interest in FDT. I want to clarify the specs and answer all questions to make it more transparent. We were together with Ralf the first programmers on ASDT besides Peter Schreiber. The 0.0.7 release was heavily influenced by us by integrating templating, quicknavigation, editor context menu and key-binding. Also the MTASC support was fully integrated by us against the wish of some ASDT members (at that time). That was our attempt to combine our development tools with ASDT and I think that pushed ASDT for miles. Unfortunately the structure and speed in the project was not acceptable for us. We needed a more advanced product faster and had to develop more independently than it was possible at that time. To accelerate the progress with our possibilities as commercial company, we had to stop developing at ASDT and came back to our own development. To show the dimension: ASDT has about 100 classes. FDT has over 600 and is a real consistent Eclipse Plugin. THERE IS NO LINE OF CODE OF ASDT IN FDT! But we like ASDT and the way that the flashcommunity comes back to start working together like in the pioneer days. FDT was originally planed and developed just for us. But we know that every professional flashdeveloper need such a tool and that was the reason why we publish it. It became what we always dreamed of - working in Flash just like JDK. It was not planed to publish it, but in the dimension it is acutally, we just have to share :). It will be not expensive (more info next month). So everyone has the choice to decide between ASDT and FDT. OpenSource will save the world - but this time it made definitly more sense for us to develop it by own. You can see the result in the near future. We can also meet together with Nico Zimmerman the mainprogrammer behind FDT in NY at the FlashForward to discuss and ofcourse we´ll try to answer all questions here. Carlo Blatz
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