My point is pretty simple.

I dont get it.

I dont know if I was intended to. If so, then further explanation is required.

Regards
Hank

On 12/6/05, Johan Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Hank,
>
> I have no involvement in neither of these two projects. I just think
> they're really cool :)
>
> I agree with you in that the email may not have been the most
> descriptive and is giving you the uninitiated reader or someone who've
> never heard of AFLAX or javaflash before, too "geeky" installation
> details in one go.
>
> I just don't agree with the following sentence and nothing else:
>
> >..and there is no explanation of what your demo does,
> >and no link to anything running.
>
> The part about no link to anything running got me going and hence my
> email showing you the links to the AFLAX demo stuff.
>
> I thought the link below with the demo of  AFLAX/javaflash integration
> was quite clear:
>
> >The demo is on the trunk in
> >http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/src/java/sjtu/dctc/wonder/javaflash/demo/AflaxDemo.java
>
> Granted, I agree that the latter assumes you know about these projects.
>
> Sorry, if I came across as being rude, that was not my intention.
>
> I hope we're sort of "agreeing to dis-agreeing" here ;-)
>
> Best regards,
>
>  /Johan
>
> On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/6/05, Johan Lopes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't totally agree Hank.
> > >
> >
> > I am not sure what you could possibly disagree with in my statement.
> > Do you disagree that one should describe what they are doing and
> > provide example links in the email???
> >
> > > I just took a look, with great interest I might add, on this page and
> > > I'm impressed by this effort. They've made it clear this is early
> > > alpha too.
> > >
> >
> > Early alpha or beta, or pre operational is irrelevant to whether you
> > can construct a clear email.
> >
> > There may be a number of people who are involved in what he is doing
> > and "get it" without any explanation. Maybe I am not smart enough but
> > with the info he provided in that email, I am not among them.
> >
> > I dont see any basis for disagreement unless you are just saying that
> > there is really plenty of info there and demos and feature
> > descriptions are unnecessary.
> >
> > > Check out this page and see for yourself:
> > >
> > > http://www.aflax.org/#demos
> > >
> >
> > the aflax page is interesting, but his email was about ****
> > JAVAFLASH***, and all of my questions are about that.
> >
> > > Click on any of the examples and view the source!
> > >
> > > This are the steps:
> > >
> > > 1) Add a flash bootstrap
> > > 2) Code some Javascript
> > > 3) Voila your swf is done! Without using the IDE or anything else.
> > >
> >
> > Again... the email is about javaflash.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Hank
> >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > /Johan
> > >
> > > On 12/6/05, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Steven,
> > > >
> > > > Your email suggests a bunch of concepts that are totally unclear to
> > > > me, eg javaflash, and there is no explanation of what your demo does,
> > > > and no link to anything running.
> > > >
> > > > FWIW if you want to demo something, the best way is a simple link to
> > > > the running thing or something that *shows* what your thing does. If
> > > > this is not possible because the thing you are doing is too low level
> > > > (like a sorting algorithm or something) then you should provide a
> > > > simple clear explanation of what it is that your thing does. All your
> > > > email provides is a complex description of some internals only
> > > > relevant to someone who is already familiar with your project, and a
> > > > description of some incredibly geeky installation instructions.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps your goal was only to speak to a few people who you already
> > > > know or who already know your work, but in that case it doesnt seem
> > > > like using the general mailing list would be appropriate.
> > > >
> > > > In any case, I presume that you would like people to check out your
> > > > stuff, and if you do, a demo link and some clear description of what
> > > > it does and the benefits would be great.
> > > >
> > > > By the way I did also click on the javaflash wiki link where I also
> > > > couldnt find any example links, and I was unclear as to whether you
> > > > have just implemented a java container for the flash plugin, or you
> > > > are claiming to have re-implemented flash. You talk about supporting
> > > > all the features of flash 8 which isnt relevant if you have just
> > > > implemented a container since the feature set is defined by the flash
> > > > player.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Hank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/6/05, Steven Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > I have just made an interesting Aflax Javaflash integration demo. 
> > > > > Thanks to
> > > > > the power of Rhino, I didn't do any extra work to enable this. :-)
> > > > > The demo is on the trunk in
> > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/src/java/sjtu/dctc/wonder/javaflash/demo/AflaxDemo.java
> > > > >
> > > > > Some modifications to Aflax are needed to in order to make it work in
> > > > > Javaflash:
> > > > >
> > > > > Firstly, the original Aflax library 0.33 uses 'callback' parameter in 
> > > > > url to
> > > > > decide the callback but it does not work locally, so we sticked the 
> > > > > callback
> > > > > to 'main'. This needs to modify aflax.as and we have provided a 
> > > > > modified
> > > > > version of swf in
> > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/Aflax-JF.swf
> > > > > and the diff of as in
> > > > > http://dctc.sjtu.edu.cn:81/svn/wonder/trunk/javaflash/misc/aflax.as.diff
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, you need to modify the callback name in examples to 'main' 
> > > > > which
> > > > > in some cases was 'go'.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, you need to copy aflax.js into $JAVAFLASH_HOME/misc
> > > > > The main class needs one parameter for the location of your js file. 
> > > > > For
> > > > > example, the example 'drawing2' of Aflax has a js file 'drawing2.js'. 
> > > > > You
> > > > > need to copy the drawing2.js somewhere, modify it and set up the 
> > > > > location of
> > > > > it to the parameter.
> > > > >
> > > > > You are done here. But that will be more. You can add Java calls to 
> > > > > JS now.
> > > > > Enjoy! ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTICE: Examples that use extra js libs and HTML DOM methods are not
> > > > > supported in Javaflash and those examples may not work properly. If 
> > > > > you want
> > > > > to run the video example, you need to copy the flv file to a location 
> > > > > and
> > > > > modify the path in JS to be relative to the location of Aflax-JF.swf.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Steven Gong
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