soul rehabilitation ? is it that ?? I don't understand people trying to buy back their souls .... wow, I should stop open source I think .... yeah, sectarian tendencies with open source ....
> Allright I take your word for it, and thats really good stuff.. > > My contribution to osflash and open source in general is code, > information.. so mostly effort, not money. If I would donate it would > probably be to ffmpeg, red5, memcached, php, debian or other > projects I > use on a daily basis.. I am just a developer, and my budgets are > limited.. Its definitely not big enough to win an argument.. > > Evert > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I am working on porting a midi filter application running on >> Windows to Linux. >> At one point I put about 6 months into development of a distro of >> Linux that >> we could never quite get off the ground due to the lead developer >> having some >> family problems. I have poured lots of time into open source >> projects and >> finances into open source. I believe the the sum of around >> $15,000. dollars >> into paying open source developers to work on apps. I could get >> you exact >> numbers. >> >> I have also dedicated my computing to Linux to the point where we >> tossed out 2 >> years worth of coding in Microsoft ASP to provide our clients with >> open >> source solutions. I have spread open source though many School >> Boards in >> Alberta, Canada and continue to push to do so. TSIware our >> product was then >> converted to run on Tomcat and mysql. Do you realize what I lost >> doing so and >> why? So that I could provide people with options. >> >> What about you? >> >> You know I am going to talk to my wife about this but I think your >> challenge >> is great. Lets donate to OSFlash. How much do you want to give. I >> don't have >> as much money as Adobe so what do you want to match me for. Keep >> it modest. >> >> https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=paypal% >> 40ariaware.com&item_name=OSFlash >> +Donation&no_shipping=1&no_note=1&tax=0¤cy_code=GBP&lc=US >> >> On Thursday 19 October 2006 6:18 pm, Evert|Rooftop wrote: >> >>> Besides, >>> >>> What are you contributing in the open source space, chris? >>> >>> Just been checking out your website: http://trackingsolutions.ca >>> Have you made your donation to osflash or one of the projects you >>> might >>> be using yet? >>> >>> Evert >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> Till, >>>> >>>> "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" is not necessarily pointed at >>>> Adobe. Take >>>> it as a generic term for ..., ..., ..., ..., fill in the blank. >>>> >>>> I never stated they were trying to take over the open source >>>> landscape. >>>> You did. >>>> >>>> Ben Forta Adobe what? did you put the words Adobe in there? I >>>> don't see >>>> that on the website. >>>> >>>> Tin hat? Hey everyone look at the crazy who asks questions! >>>> >>>> Hey the USS Liberty must have been attacked by Egypt how dare I >>>> think it >>>> was Israel. >>>> >>>> Sorry for questioning what looks fishy. I should have taken my >>>> place in >>>> line. I will only speak when spoken to. Point taken Till. I see >>>> there are >>>> several people out there that want to jump on me for questioning >>>> motives. >>>> >>>> Nothing strange here folks just keep on moving along. >>>> >>>> Hey I have an idea. Adobe support an already thriving community >>>> with >>>> support. Take a bit of a helpers roll. (I am not talking about a >>>> couple >>>> of guys posting projects from Adobe and answering a few >>>> questions). What >>>> about throwing some funding towards OSFlash.org to see things >>>> grow there. >>>> Why RIAForge. OSFlash is already doing a great job. I am sure >>>> that there >>>> is going to be some that say this is just for the best. Well >>>> than OK. >>>> >>>> I now see why Richard Stallman gets so upset. >>>> >>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:10 pm, Till Schneidereit wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> I think you should either just let it go, or post some proof >>>>> for your >>>>> allegations. Or at least point out what lets you believe in >>>>> some sort of >>>>> conspiracy. And you'd have to do better than pointing out that the >>>>> domain is owned by Adobe, because there wasn't ever any doubt >>>>> about >>>>> Adobe being involved in setting up RIAForge - hell, they even >>>>> state >>>>> right there on the "About" page that it was devised by >>>>> (Adobe's) Ben >>>>> Forta.[1] Concluding, I want to emphasize that I don't want to >>>>> say that >>>>> it's impossible that there's a "BIG COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" >>>>> devising >>>>> devilish plans to take over the Flash open source landscape. >>>>> I'm just >>>>> saying that there really aren't any substantive signs for that >>>>> being the >>>>> case. Anyway, maybe you should keep your tinfoil hat on to >>>>> prevent our >>>>> new overlords from controlling you ;) >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> till >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1]: http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.about >>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have nothing against Adobe I actually think they have some >>>>>> really >>>>>> cool software and they have started some great stuff. Just a >>>>>> little >>>>>> strange that Ray would have to use their Domain created just >>>>>> recently. >>>>>> It is not like Ray was in the corner and Adobe had to bail him >>>>>> out with >>>>>> the only domain available. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Adobe wants to start an Open Source thing up then say so. >>>>>> Don't hide >>>>>> in the bushes and let Ray take any falls that are coming. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sick of big corporate crap. I absolutely hate it. This >>>>>> just stinks >>>>>> of some corporate board room meeting whose topic was "Dealing >>>>>> with the >>>>>> Open Source Threat". >>>>>> >>>>>> People can say anything they want about it but I just can't >>>>>> stand the >>>>>> garbage games. >>>>>> >>>>>> If people want to say lets just find ways to work together >>>>>> with them. >>>>>> Well it is not a matter of working together with them. They >>>>>> need to >>>>>> work together with us. What is more agreeable than an Open Source >>>>>> Project. No one is ever saying we won't work with you. It is >>>>>> the "BIG >>>>>> COOPERATE GARBAGE MACHINE" that wants to be fed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I run a business that has developed both closed and open source >>>>>> software. I know what it is like while debating to launch your >>>>>> software, what is the best license to use. Just stop it with the >>>>>> Microsoft/SCO secret agent games. I suppose it will never stop >>>>>> as long >>>>>> as money is involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Last thing... Good job to all you Open Source programmers. >>>>>> Without you >>>>>> we would be in a really bad computing state. I love Linux and >>>>>> Open >>>>>> Source and am very greatfull for the way it has opened my eyes to >>>>>> corporate evil. >>>>>> >>>>>> HEY THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MONEY! >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Cherrett >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:35 am, Peter Elst wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Its on the about page of RIAForge.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <quote> RIAForge was the brainchild of Ben Forta. The principal >>>>>>> developer for the project is Raymond Camden >>>>>>> <http://ray.camdenfamily.com></quote> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Domain name ownership has been brought up before, so what we >>>>>>> owns the >>>>>>> domain or runs the thing -- Adobe takes an open source >>>>>>> initiative and >>>>>>> all of a sudden its some conspiracy or an attempt to >>>>>>> assassinate a >>>>>>> community? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's just find ways to work together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> by the way ray is suppose to be the guy who started riaforge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:24 am, >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey check out: >>>>>>>>> http://ray.camdenfamily.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> then: >>>>>>>>> http://www.riaforge.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One looks like a quick install of a template and the other >>>>>>>>> looks >>>>>>>>> like a design team worked on it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Too funny! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday 19 October 2006 5:19 am, >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> Whois is great! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And the verdict is Adobe! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I was not really following the thread but if someone >>>>>>>>>> already found >>>>>>>>>> this then sorry....... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> osflash mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> osflash mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> osflash mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> osflash mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
