Hey Aral, I don't know if this is viable for you or not but
RailsPlayground uses CPanel and a very simple rails app for
administrating Subversion/Trac---you pay for hosting and request
svn/trac install and the rest can be done by the client via these two
web apps. Since switching to rails I've been using these guys as a
host and its great b/c I have total control.

CPanel ain't free and the rails app they use to admin trac/svn is in
house-- but you never know they might want to see it improved and/or
sell it. Anyhow, leveraging software like this might be a way to let
you "hit the ground running" with a minimum effort.

http://www.cpanel.net/purchase/cPanelandWHM/linux/cPanel_WHM.htm

Cheers,
Brian



On 10/20/06, zwetan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Aral,
>
> On 10/20/06, Aral Balkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > As of now, I am going to be devoting myself to developing an engine
> > to power an open source web site similar to SourceForge but much
> > simpler to use. It has automated project signups, etc., and the core
> > functionality from the current solution. OSFlash will become one
> > category (the Flash category) under the projects that are hosted
> > there (alongside other Adobe and non-Adobe projects.) In order to
> > make it possible for me to work on this and pay the rent, I am going
> > to create a separate site that uses this engine which will host
> > commercial projects for a fee. Finally, if companies want to use this
> > engine, they'll be able to buy licenses for it and/or buy it as an
> > appliance. This should make it financially feasible for me to work on
> > OSFlash full time.
> >
> > What does everyone think of this?
> >
>
> maybe what I experienced those last month can help a little
>
> my case was that doing basic freelance work in flash etc.
> most of the time every single client didn't have something
> as Trac+Subversion, but once they experienced it
> they just wanted exactly the same thing for almost all their
> projects but didn't want to go all the trouble to install it themselves.
>
> At first I was hosting all that just on mix of VPS + home DSL,
> then got problem with both the VPS plan and the DSL, then decided to
> go on my own dedicated server.
>
> My plan was the same, host open source projects for my stuff and for
> other people that might be interested, but have an automated tool that
> do just that automate stuff because yes it take a hell lot of a
> time...
>
> This is very recent but here are some results after ~1 months
>
> -> the automated stuff take more time than I thought, I should have
> planed more time for it, not even remotely finished as I would want,
> so I set up to have automated stuff on batch script level and see
> later how I can have cool web admin and sleeping at the same time...
>
> -> strangely, clients talk to each other, and most of the
> time new clients come ask me to host their Trac+SVN
> without me even needing to look for new clients,
> which is something I didn't planed at all.
>
> -> you need a very small set of paying client to cover for the cost of
> the dedicated server, but even if this is cool this is not enougth to
> cover you to be full time working on the server (but I'm talking for
> me, a very small 1-man-shop and I was expecting that anyway).
>
>
> With OSFlash, which is much much much bigger,
> even if you can experience about the same thing,
> you will have imho a scaling problem, and here
> I'm talking about your ressources as a human being :).
>
> Even paid and being able to do all this full time 24/24,
> such a setup for this scale would take quite some time
> to put in place.
>
> For OSS projects, if the web admin is not ready etc.
> it's ok, people can understand etc.
> but for paying client, if they do not have an easy admin
> to manage their project they will want and ask you the human admin
> to set up things for them, and this is the most time consuming thing imho.
>
> I don't know how you want to program all that,
> but if some of my stuff
> (jscript and python mostly on windows server) can help,
> I would be glad to share that or other little tricks
> that save time in the day ;).
>
> cheers,
> zwetan
>
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