On 1/4/07, Nicolas Cannasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Nicolas! > > I wonder which editor you use for programming Ocaml? What about haXe? > (Before you developed haxeFD :) Please let this thread dying peacefully :) Nicolas _
I find it fascinating and disturbing that you and others find the art of spirited discussion (not flaming - i.e. insulting each other and making ridiculous statements) distasteful. I personally find all the "war" metaphors that people have used to discuss this thread as troubling. I'm not sure what it says about our culture that we can only either agree and not discuss things, or that we must "flame" each other and there is no between. I'm not sure what it says about our culture that, what at least *I* consider to be a valuable debate is dismissed as an "editor war". Personally, in my real life (off the net) I learn far more from people disagreeing with me than I do from everyone just sort of saying "whatever you say". I used to run a company of 100+ people and I can tell you that the worst thing, for me, has always been when conflicting ideas don't get discussed. Yelling and insulting each other sucks, but saying "well I think you are wrong about x because y" is, in my view, the absolute best way to learn things from other people. Perhaps its the geek culture that makes such social discourse difficult. Or perhaps people fear their own inability to restrain themselves with the written word. Or perhaps the fact is that some people can't restrain themselves which ruins it for everyone. But it just seems to me that we loose a lot of the "value of ideas" if the act of discussing those opposing views is frowned upon. I think its sad really that the act of discussing anything beyond how to declare a variable, or why an error condition exists is either problematic, or at least perceived to be so. Particularly when this particular list doesn't actually discuss deeply technical issues which are typically covered on other lists, in my view, such attitudes discourage interchange of ideas, and make this kind of forum much less valuable than it could otherwise be. Then again perhaps discussing the social dynamic of a flash email group in the flash email group is just too much to bear if we cant even debate a theory in a programming book. Never mind. Regards, Hank
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