Hello Hank, I think you are right and maybe I got an idea why this applies: Flame Wars are fun! Maybe the tools we use and the things we grow up get a descent part of our personality (i spend more time with firefox than with my girlfriend) and therefore is as hard to change as a habit. Furthermore some try to defend their habits with a self-created "religion" in order to point out that they are better. Beeing better might be another thing: How do you compare good tools? A hammer is no screwdriver!
Anyway: To me its the case that I havn't found a editor that I really like most but I would fairly enjoy one which is integrated into the browser (maybe even js based) in order for beeing able to use it everywhere. I often changed computer and its a little safer to me to keep my mails in my webaccount because I don't have a complete Backup plan. Same for a cool editing tool (including all presets) I don't bother if its console based VI (which i found rather pleasing) / EMACS or graphical as long as it fights the task. Beside that: I didn't read the book so comments rare but what i can say is: Some thoughts: * Console editors do their work on a remote linux computer which could be quite useful if youre an network admin. * After you minded the shortcuts they are a lot faster than the buttons that you need to reach with the mouse (obvious speed enhancment?) * Code completion is _the_ tool of development. If a tool can offer that its the king because with code completion you can more easily find if the certain instance supports this or that method (which replaces a view into the documentation) and the type speed increases dramatically. onM[Strg+Space][Enter] instead of onMouseMove. (Its same with <TAB> in a linux console ...) * I think code formatting is useful if your brain sorts things in colors (and bright gray for documentation hides out or focuses on the other important parts. (all brain juggling) * Memory usage might be important but if the overall time gets reduced by not needing to do this or that its reasonable. yours Martin. PS.: I use Eclipse - FDT (because i developed opensource), scintilla (for small stuff) and vim (if needed) PPS.: Its not the tools its the results that count. On 1/4/07, hank williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/4/07, Nicolas Cannasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Nicolas! > > > > I wonder which editor you use for programming Ocaml? What about haXe? > > (Before you developed haxeFD :) > > Please let this thread dying peacefully :) > > Nicolas > > _ I find it fascinating and disturbing that you and others find the art of spirited discussion (not flaming - i.e. insulting each other and making ridiculous statements) distasteful. I personally find all the "war" metaphors that people have used to discuss this thread as troubling. I'm not sure what it says about our culture that we can only either agree and not discuss things, or that we must "flame" each other and there is no between. I'm not sure what it says about our culture that, what at least *I* consider to be a valuable debate is dismissed as an "editor war". Personally, in my real life (off the net) I learn far more from people disagreeing with me than I do from everyone just sort of saying "whatever you say". I used to run a company of 100+ people and I can tell you that the worst thing, for me, has always been when conflicting ideas don't get discussed. Yelling and insulting each other sucks, but saying "well I think you are wrong about x because y" is, in my view, the absolute best way to learn things from other people. Perhaps its the geek culture that makes such social discourse difficult. Or perhaps people fear their own inability to restrain themselves with the written word. Or perhaps the fact is that some people can't restrain themselves which ruins it for everyone. But it just seems to me that we loose a lot of the "value of ideas" if the act of discussing those opposing views is frowned upon. I think its sad really that the act of discussing anything beyond how to declare a variable, or why an error condition exists is either problematic, or at least perceived to be so. Particularly when this particular list doesn't actually discuss deeply technical issues which are typically covered on other lists, in my view, such attitudes discourage interchange of ideas, and make this kind of forum much less valuable than it could otherwise be. Then again perhaps discussing the social dynamic of a flash email group in the flash email group is just too much to bear if we cant even debate a theory in a programming book. Never mind. Regards, Hank _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
-- ICQ: 117662935 Skype: mastakaneda
_______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
