As an aside, I've learned quite a bit during this "discussion / debate".  As
a bad developer with a love of wizards, I know a lot more about emacs than I
did 3 days ago and may someday even use it, just like the Pragmatic
Programmer told me to do so many years ago.

On 1/4/07, Nicolas Cannasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>     > Hi Nicolas!
>     >
>     > I wonder which editor you use for programming Ocaml? What about
haXe?
>     > (Before you developed haxeFD :)
>
>     Please let this thread dying peacefully :)
>
>     Nicolas
>
>     _
>
>
> I find it fascinating and disturbing that you and others find the art of
> spirited discussion (not flaming - i.e. insulting each other and making
> ridiculous statements) distasteful. I personally find all the "war"
> metaphors that people have used to discuss this thread as troubling.

Just a few words.

I'm not against any kind of discussion on the OSFlash list. I haven't
followed the thread in details, but there are some common things in all
IDE threads.

In general, people tend to be very conservative about the tools they are
using, and that's a perfectly normal / human reaction. Whatever the IDE
functionalities, you need to spend some time getting used to it, and
once you are used to some IDE, it's difficult to change since you feel
you will have to invest a lot of time into getting used to another one
(while it's actually quite quick).

So when some conservative people that all have strong opinions about
their own IDE and lack knowledge about other people arguments gather, it
tends to turn into a rather uninteresting discussion, with a very high
noise/signal ratio.

Nobody prevent you from debating things on the list, but it's rather
difficult for people that are just a little bit interested in the topic
to follow the thread and spent a good amount of time reading the rather
long mails and their rather long responses that are sent. So such a
debate is in general only read by the few that are participating to it,
which is very far from the traditional usage of a mailing list, where
things posted should concern most of the subscribers.

I think there's a difference between a "discussion" and a "debate", and
while I like to take part in the first, I don't in the second, unless I
also have a strong opinion about the subject. Making "stop the flames"
comments is also a way to calm down spirits that get sometimes quickly
heated up in a debate.

Nicolas

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