Hi Robert, all
So, I just want to sum up, which next steps are needed in order to create a system which should/might improve the etiquette quality in our community: > > Having both a first name signature and the full name elsewhere > displayed on the post is the best of both of worlds. On the email > front right now the full name can typically be seen in From field, and > with a well composed text the personal will manually sign there name > with an appropriate salutation for the context. > I agree with that point and will force the users use both (first and last) names in their profiles. In order to do so, I have to implement something, which allows easy moderation of messages (on the moderator/admin side) before they are sent to the mailing list. So, this will take couple of days to do so. After this is implemented every user, which name isn't appropriate will be added to the list of moderated users. They will recieve an email that the rules of the forum (i.e. valid names) has to be followed, otherwise their message could not be publicated. > > In the end one will have to have moderators that can make a good > judgement call about how well suited a name is, and if it's not then > have a standard mechanism and documentation on what names are > appropriate so that those who get rejected will know that it's not > person and that there is a simply remedy. > Currently only me and Roland are doing moderation on the forum. However we need maybe somebody from the US time zone, so that we could respond faster and not stall the community communication. I think, I will post some kind of "looking for moderators" message on the list soon. Maybe somebody of you, who are reading this thread, would like to join our moderator team, then contact me :) ? > > Any ideal what percentage of forum users use this template? > No, I have no percentage value of how much users are using this template. However, if I take a look into sent messages, then I would say, that almost 90% use it. However some people do just not understand, that "..." has to be replaced by their text and not ment to be sent with the message too :) > > Where you want to include the contents of the previous post in your > reply depends upon how what you are trying to convey/answer. For > instance with a bulleted post like this one I'm replying to it makes > sense to use the original contents. > > As long as you can delete the reply contents easily I don't see a > problem with it being there by default. I presume the forum will have > both options anyway. > What I would like to have is some kind of "AJAX" based editing system. So that users, whenever they are typing a new message, could directly see, how this will looks like without clicking extra on the "preview" button. However, this is a long-term feature, for which I would need much more time, because it seems there is no such mod for the forum available, at least I wasn't able to find it. So to fix some solution, I wouldn't change the message typing system for now, because I would even need some special treatment if I would like to include the previous messages as quotes automatically. Because I would like to have the quotes which has a deep level of quotiation be cleaned u automatically. This need some brain power to think, how to do so... > > Signatures are very useful though, I almost always sign my posts, I > believe it's an important part of net etiquette, a little bit of oil > in the cogs of an otherwise very try communication medium. > Currently the template is providing already some kind of automatic signature. It adds "Thank you! Cheers, First Last name". So I think this is enough as a signature, because users should be able to see, that something like that has to be used. I wouldn't like to force forum users to specify an extra signature in their profile, because this would discriminate them over the mailing list users, which often don't use any signature. > > The system solutions are probably be down to refinement of > signatures/templates. Perhaps being able to see what others will see > of your posts would be useful as well. I haven't used the > blog.openscenegraph.org to post anything yet, but I presume you get to > review you post being it's submitted. Would it be helpful to provide > what forum users will see of the post as well what text mailing lists > users will see? > As stated before, this already exists, if user hit the "preview" button. Then he/she is able to see, how their message will look like. However, since many of users don't even do so, I would like to have some kind of automatic message preview, which requires time to implement. > > On the system side as well one friction point that came up recently > was the a smilely used in forum came through as a unintended sarcastic > remark when it came through in email. See the text sent to the > mailing list would help with this. Just nixing this smileys or > sending a rich formatted email might be the solution for this type of > mailing list/forum integration issue. > Hmm, actually the smiles should be converted to the standard format, which is used worlwide by chatters (i.e :), ;), ...). If user place a smiley, he maybe want to be sarcastic, however I am not sure. Maybe you can point me on specific message, which does include those "unintended sarcastic" smiles? I would like to know how it does looks like in the forum and on the email. Then I could either remove that smiley or replace it by some other emoticon. So again a sum up in the order of their importance: - force users to use first and lastname in their profiles (moderate user if he/she don't follow the rules) - look for one or two additional forum moderators - correct the smiley/emoticon if needed at all (however I need your feedback which one do you means) - automatic quotiation of previous message (need some extra programming effort to filter out deep quotes to not to pollute the messages) - automatic message preview system based on AJAX technology (hard task, so this will be done as soon as I have more time for it) - maybe we could really add a "Beginner" section in the forum which will have a prefix [beginner], so that other experts could decide if they want to take a look or not? What do you think? I think this are the points, we have pointed out in order to improve the etiquette in our community. All other aspects are more social like and can not be solved in a "programmer" way, I think. Best regards, art ------------------ Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=11648#11648 _______________________________________________ osg-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
