On 31/07/13 19:11, Raymond Auge wrote:
> Also, I would imagine for the initial behavior to only be build warnings
> that a developer may be breaking provider/consumer backward
> compatibility. I want to grow our team's awareness around the idea of
> semantic versionning... not make them want to quit.
> 

Come see my talk at EclipseCon, if it's accepted ;-)

> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Raymond Auge <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     1) We can't use BNDTools! (again our project is a MASSIVE well
>     established build that hundreds of developers are consuming from a
>     variety of IDEs, and that can't change).
>     2) we are using bnd to build our jars from ant (been doing so for
>     around 1 year)
>     3) this is not version 1.0 of the product or of the consumers of our
>     APIs. We're at version 6.2.0 (and people often refer to the API
>     versions as the version of the product so I don't want to change all
>     that legacy verbiage).
> 
>     My logic is assuming we "tagged" version 6.2.0 with that package
>     version for everything when we do our current release (in fact just
>     after the release and before any other changes are made), every
>     subsequent source change would be calculated against that particular
>     version.
> 
>     Make sense?
> 

For (semantic) versioning in OSGi the bundle version actually is
meaningless. It's a marketing number, so 6.2.0 in your case.

Only package versions have meaning.

Of course you can always version everything the same, but a single major
change will bump _everything_ to 7.0.0. I hope you're aware of that...

> 
>     On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Ferry Huberts <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>         On 31/07/13 18:25, Raymond Auge wrote:
>         > Hello all,
>         >
>         > I was wondering if anyone ever created a tool that would
>         "review" a
>         > project source, and based on a single initially supplied
>         version, apply
>         > package versionning to the sources (including detection of
>         > consumers/providers).
>         >
>         > Our project has tens of thousands of classes and I'm trying to
>         bootstrap
>         > initial versionning.
>         >
>         > Note that I fully realize that such tools are likely to make wrong
>         > assumptions particularly where it's unclear about "internal"
>         > implementation details (private packages).
>         >
> 
> 
>         I'm not really sure what you're asking, but if you had no
>         version before
>         than the initial version will be 1.0.0. Otherwise you'd need to
>         compare
>         the previous released version of the bundle with the bundle that is
>         built from the source tree. bnd can do that for you, it has a diff
>         command that shows the diff and suggests a new version.
>         bndtools can also do that for you automatically....
> 
>         You can use the release tooling of bnd/bndtools to set up all
>         versions.
> 
>         If you install our latest stable build from
>         
> https://bndtools.ci.cloudbees.com/job/bndtools.master/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/generated/p2/
>         then you can enable baselining (a work in progress) to manage
>         all versions.
> 
>         The baselining will account for provider/consumer types and many
>         more cases.
> 
>         Enabling baselining is done by adding '-baseline: *' to the bnd
>         file.
> 
> 
> 
>         --
>         Ferry Huberts
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     *Raymond Augé*
>     <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> (@rotty3000)
>     Senior Software Architect
>     *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> (@Liferay)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Raymond Augé*
> <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile> (@rotty3000)
> Senior Software Architect
> *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com> (@Liferay)
> 

-- 
Ferry Huberts
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