Harold,

Thanks for stepping in with such a great solution.  I'll add one little twist, 
if possible.  The current archives goes back to 1999.  I have an additional 
~1,000 messages that take us back to the list's beginnings in December, 1996.

Is it possible to incorporate them into the archives?

Peggy

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On Dec 24, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

> Hi Raffi,
> 
> You're welcome. Thanks for insisting that I take a closer look. Bottom line - 
> no - this is not a problem and I don't think we need to process more messages 
> first. The conversion is working perfectly. But there is something to 
> consider.
> 
> The ListServ software collects the messages as they come in and creates a 
> separate archive file for each month. Looking over the 54 messages that 
> Michael Herman posted online to http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist.log9904 
> there's a message definitely marked as if it were from June 1999. So if you 
> take the messages at their word - the message is really from June 1999. So 
> the conversion did not introduce any errors. (You can check this yourself at 
> Michael's link.)
> 
> But based on the context, the one message with the June date stamp looks like 
> the person who sent it had put an invalid time stamp on their message. I get 
> messages like this sometimes from people who don't set the clock on their 
> computer properly.
> 
> The Mailman software does not collect the messages into separate files for 
> each month. Mailman stores the archived messages all in a single mbox file. 
> So the date sorting is very dependent on the timestamp on the messages being 
> accurate to sort them properly.
> 
> So even though the conversion happened properly - it might be worthwhile 
> going over all the ListServ archives and making a guess at the correct 
> timestamp. The message was written somewhere between April 17 and April 20, 
> 1999 based on the message thread evidence. Hopefully it didn't happen that 
> often, as it's a bit of detective work for each message.
> 
>     Happy Holidays!
>     Harold
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/24/10 5:10 PM, Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
>> Harold, thanks for this. I'm really grateful that you have taken this time,
>> along with Michael Herman, to research a post-Boise home for OSlist.
>> 
>> And just to clarify:
>> 
>> You're saying that in your test run you converted one month, April 1999. And
>> that you're confident that the stray message from June 1999 (which isn't
>> really from June 1999) should not be an indication of a problem?
>> 
>> I don't know if you'd have the chance to do so, I'm wondering if you think 
>> it would be worthwhile to convert a few more months just to make sure that
>> this conversion would work?
>> 
>> happy holidays and belated yalda!
>> 
>> appreciatively,
>> Raffi
>> 
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