Not meaning to be snarky. Only checking your intentions with the huge fonts. We you trying to generate liminality?

The topic fascinates me. It just strikes me what you say about continuous improvements creating a liminal or threshold state. We're not just talking about everyday learning here, we're often talking about unlearning and complete collapse of understanding before new ways of looking at things can be embraced. Agile does seem to have a lot of that. And not everyone is comfortable in that space. Whereas most OST folks I know love that space.

I'm reminded of the work of Thomas Kuhn and paradigms and revolutions in science. I've heard tell that in many fields the old guard has to die before people can expect things to really change. But things are changing too fast now to be able to wait for the old guard to kick the bucket. And often times, we ourselves end up being the old guard after being the revolutionaries only a few years (or days!) previously.

This really is in sync with Harrison Owen's description of grief work in Wave Rider, one of my favorites of his books, and why OST has been so relevant. We're really invited to die and die again, but without dying, so that we can learn new things. But the same grief process seems to get invoked, even if we don't actually die.

What does the research and thinking around liminality say about griefwork?

    Harold

On 10/11/13 8:14 AM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
> In the book SPIRIT, author Harrison Owen says plainly and profoundly:
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> This is describing a threshold state:
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> We are liminal when we do Agile for real. And because there is no end to improvement in Agile, the dangers (and the opportunities) of the liminal state are always present. This is a perfect spot for a passage rite...one based on Open Space, leadership storytelling and more.
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> Agile creates stressful liminality. The Open Agile Adoption technique recognizes what is happening, says "OK" to that, and addresses the issue by bringing in a useful passage rite, one designed to handle the liminality...a passage rite that incorporates Open Space.
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> Now the stress of liminality is reduced, leading to better outcomes...in the Open Space.
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