Harrison,

I was going to ask you to say more about "High Play", but it was easy to learn more about your ideas here with a quick google search. From http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm. The emphasis is mine.

   High Play denotes the manner in which the people involved approach
   their task -- playfully. Quite often play is understood to be a
   trivial incidental compared to the real business of living. I think
   this is a profound error. Play for me may be the most serious
   (important) of our many undertakings. The importance of play derives
   from the fact that when we experience reality in different and
   unexpected ways, *we seek to understand (develop knowledge about)
   **our new experience by telling likely stories, or in more formal
   terms, creating theories*. We take the available evidence, combined
   with our prior experience and try to construct reasonable
   explanations for the newly observed phenomenon. Almost inevitably
   our first attempts are flawed, and it is often the case that there
   are as many theories (stories) as people telling them. If everybody
   treats their version as the "gospel truth" it is not long before the
   dead hand of dogma descends, and the search for understanding
   degenerates into a fight amongst ideologues.  On the other hand,
   when people treat their new adventure in a playful fashion, there
   may well be serious competition, but there is also deep respect for
   the "opponents," and a real joy in the game. In Open Space it is
   very common to see the game of knowledge building played with real
   skill and enjoyment -- even by people who have never done anything
   like that before.

I really like the presence of "real joy in the game" of finding the best likely stories (theories). I also love the value you express for "deep respect for the 'opponents'".

Game on!

    Harold


On 1/11/14 11:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

Harold -- I like your last line,"If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better stories (theories)." Actually, my words for this are High Play. I've found that good theory building is best done playfully, which does not make it a trivial activity, but it does guard against dogmatism. Good theory, playfully created, and playfully held is always open to revision -- or just plain discard.

Harrison

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Harrison,

It seemed like you were having a problem with understanding when you wrote the following:

"When I was confronted with what was happening in Open Space (25 years ago) it made absolutely no sense to me at all. And what makes no sense does not lend itself to understanding. I "knew," as did everybody else of my age, background and training -- that what seemed to be taking place in Open Space simply could not happen. Organization was something that we created, managed, and controlled."

There are so many theoretical frameworks that have begun to embody the more adaptive systems thinking required maybe not to fully understand, but to start to improve our models of organization not something as something we impose - but something that we can nurture, cultivate, or just open ourselves to experience.

It seems like this thread has been about understanding self-organization. I love that you brought something from Quantum Mechanics that "somebody's formulation was good, but not crazy enough to be true." This reminds me of the Tao Te Ching. The Tao that can be spoken is not the true Tao.

It reminds me a lot of what you wrote in Spirit, and which you mentioned in your TED talk. Story tellers don't tell the truth. But in the story, truth emerges. Probably between the words.

If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better stories (theories).

    Harold

On 1/10/14 5:08 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:

    Harold -- I have no problem with "understanding." Good and useful
    enterprise. Question is: Understanding of what? And in what frame
    or context. I think we have come to a point where we "understand"
    Jthat there are multiple logics, each appropriate to different
    senses of reality. Newtonian Physics really does work. AND Quantum
    Mechanics was/is crazy. In fact one of the framers of Quantum
    Mechanics (Heisenberg I think) remarked that that somebody's
    formulation was good, but not crazy enough to be true. Or
    something.  I think we may be at a similar paradigm/shift point.
    We'll see how it all turn out.




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