Thank you for your advises an ideas. I have now more experience after this situation. I did not have a clear agreement with this association concerning this video since the begining. I will remove it from my site and learn from this case. Adriana
2014/1/18 Lisa Heft - <[email protected]> > Adriana - I know you are thoughtful and ethical. It is both thoughtful and > ethical to have an agreement about permission for the use of other peoples' > faces and quotes before any face-to-face documentation. And good practice > would say the same may be true for virtual conversations. > > So in any dialogue / group setting I start by saying I am taking photos > (for x use), others may as well, and if any participant does not want to be > in these photos I respect both their choice and their responsibility to > walk up to any of us taking photos to request they not be included. Same is > true for anyone doing audio or video recording. I also say that in this > electronic age, we can each have intention to only use (for example) a > digital photo or video in a certain way, but people we know and do not know > can often cut-and-paste from an original source and use it in ways that are > not sourced (attributed / named) or used in original context. Just as an > awareness. I look around the group and say 'may we all agree to x?' - and > then we move on. > > In a client situation, we always discuss this in advance - during the > pre-work - as documentation is always part of whatever dialogue work I do, > whatever the process. We have an agreement whether both > print-electronic-whatever discussion documentation -and- visual imagery can > be used by both parties and in what circumstances they can be used. For > example I always get permission to have a final draft Book of Proceedings > for my own archives, and then we also get into very specific wording > (depends on the client) about whether I can use a printed version of their > Book of Proceedings in a workshop / educational setting - or not. Whether I > can use digital photos taken for documentation (by them or by me) on my > website - or not - and usually they ask to see which ones in case there is > someone in that photo they know has requested no photos. > > It is all very manageable and easy but I think is very respectful to let > people (or a hosting organization for a group event) know in advance how > their words and likenesses may be used, and to ask for permission and give > credit wherever possible. Even if you paid for the images. > > So this can be handled very easily at a live event by either clarity with > the client before the event that they speak on behalf of their organization > (therefore no individual people's permission required) or as Dan says - > registration - or a piece of paper they sign as they arrive - clearly > saying that their signing (or registration) gives consent. > > Adriana - perhaps they may give permission to use certain parts of what > you recorded on your website - as one of my clients has done. Not the full > body of documentation, but certain parts of it... > > Lisa > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring > *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:52 AM > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space videos > > > > ... I have a question for this group.It is about OS video ownership and > use. > > I facilitate an OS in april 2013 and my client was not interested in > having a video of this OS but I was, so I ask their permission to make this > video. But I did not ask permission to put it on mi web site. After they > told me I have to remove it from there because they did not agree and > because more than a 100 people are there and we did not asked their > permission to film.them. But they saw the camara man (women) filming an > nobody said they don accept to be filmed. > > The have told me to remove it but the reasons don't seem clear to me at > all. What is the correct way to use OS videos according to your experiences? > > by the way, I payed it, of course and I did not charge for the preparation > of this OS I only charged the 2 days that I was there... > > and this is delicate because I am a member of the association that decided > to do this OS. > > The video can be seen at www.diazberrio.com > > Thank you very much for telleing me about how I could do next time or how > can I do now i think this question is important for other people also. > > Adriana > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > -- Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA (514) 739 2268 www.diazberrio.com
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