Harrison, thanks for your reply and your perceptions. I'm starting to believe English is woefully lacking with respect to describing Open Space dynamics, with any kind of clarity.

On 3/31/14 10:51 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

Dan -- I think I see the source of your dilemma (stuckness). "Equivalence of authorization" (or non-equivalence) is a valid consideration in the traditional organization, characterized by pre-determined hierarchy, authority, control, and all the rest. The situation in Open Space is of a radically different sort -- where those words and concepts simply don't apply. Sort of like arguing for the presence/absence of 4 footed creatures in the world of centipedes. I can understand how you would start down this path if you were trying to "explain" the experience of Open Space (self organization) to the Traditional Folks, or even more difficult, rationalize the use of Open Space in a traditional model. Apples and oranges, oil and water, cats and dogs ...I think. Which is why I have just given up trying to explain it...Just do it.

Well, of course, I do fabricate a bit... and you might legitimately point to the several books I have written, which do sound something like an explanation. Guilty as charged, but with extenuating circumstances, I think. It is true I do try to describe/explain Open Space, but always in a particular context -- the world of self organizing systems. I have never tried to justify or rationalize Open Space in the "standard" world view. Which truth be told, I find rather delusional, but don't tell a soul. The reason is very simple; I really couldn't do it. And in fact I don't think anybody can... And when they make the effort, they usually find themselves stuck. Sound familiar? Of course there is another alternative. Simply cut Open Space down to a size that will fit -- View it (OS) as just one more tool for the tool box, and you can usually get by. For a while, at least.

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This is very helpful for helping me understand your thinking. Thanks for sending the rich detail and disclosure.

I am stuck. I continue to hold the belief that (quoting myself here...)

"Everyone...Sponsor included, has 100% equivalent authorization (100% equivalent "right to do work" in the Open Space) as of the moment of opening of the Bulletin Board and/or the opening of the Marketplace."

I wonder: if this is NOT actually true, how can the space be said to be truly open? I wonder who has more "right to do work" than anyone else... as of the opening of the Bulletin Board, and/or the opening of the Marketplace, in an Open Space meeting.

Maybe there is no equivalence of authorization whatsoever in Open Space, and I am simply barking up the wrong tree.

Daniel


On 3/31/14 9:41 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:

    Dear Dan,
    as mostly, there is none or very little detailed thinking behind
    me expressing the idea, that authority does not disappear just
    because an os-event is taking place, and there is no levelling of
    authority, which I assume you meant, when using the expression
    "equal standing".

    This is all observation and experience, data I have taken in. In
    my world, thats pretty important and utterly valid even if the
    stuff I observe might be seen completely different by other
    observers.

    Looking at myself, I have lots of authority of the kind that sort
    of oozes out of me when standing in a circle, looking every one in
    the eye, even if there are thousands and asking them to look
    around, at the person to the right and to the left of them, behind
    them, at the other side of the circcle, all the time slowly
    walking around the circle... after I have done that twice everyone
    is smiling, looking, focusing on each other away from me... and
    then my authority shifts as I say nothing about open space but
    talk about the facts of life (the principles) etc... and later I
    move in the authority of invisibilty and presence...

    I am not sure what happens to the participants but I have no data
    that would indicate them reaching equal standing as far as
    authority is concerned or that others will ignore the different
    kinds and levels of authority that is associated with others
    representing those, regardless of whether just assumed or in fact
    fact.

    There have been experiential settings in which I have
    participated, such as the desert game where the folks claiming to
    be authorities on how to survive in a desert lead the group to
    certain death, or Tavistock Laboratories where participants, me
    included, even though we had all the space and freedom we wanted
    to take, used their various authorities in intricate manners to
    re-create exactly the kinds of organisational strutures they came
    from. So, authorities are simply a fact of life, more or less
    useful, especially if adaptable in the face of surprises.

    What I do find very interesting, is your quest investigating
    my thinking! I have pretty much given up investigating my own
    thinking, let alone that of others. Seems to me that the only
    thing that works for my passion to have the forces of
    selforganisation do their thing (expanding time and space, if that
    is at all possible) is to concentrate on the things I can somehow
    control: set up a circle of chairs, etc.

    Have a great day
    mmp

    On 30.03.2014 16:17, Daniel Mezick wrote:

    Michael,

    I am asking for help. May I investigate your thinking?
    "...there is no such thing as an equal standing in authority terms."
    Will you expose your detailed thinking behind your expression of this
    one idea?





    On 3/30/14 8:34 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:

    Dear Dan and everyone,
    here are some bits from my experience:

    ---When I get a call or an email from someone asking me to facilitate
    an ost-event I tell them to please arrange a "contact" meeting that
    needs to be attended also by the person that will have the authority
    to say yes or no at the end (usually the person that would pay my
    fee). The purpose of the contact meeting is for the sponsor to find
    out, whether the prerequisites for an OST event are sufficiently in
    place. This meeting takes 60 to 90 minutes, no fee charged.
    This process has nothing to do with OST, its simply what is needed
    for
    any kind of intervention of any kind of man-made organisation that is
    embarking on such a venture.

    ---Participants in an OST event do not leave the authority
    bestowed on
    them in the wardrobe, there is no such thing as an equal standing in
    authority terms. What does happen is that folks differently bestowed
    with authority  will, in contrast to what they usually do, follow
    more
    freely their "passion and responsibility" which, it seems, in some
    way
    increases their non-bestowed authority... the expanded space for the
    forces of selforganisation, the real motor in an OST event, seems to
    have this effect. Everyone, all participants, fully well know the
    limitations that they will have to deal with "back in the asylum"
    when
    they follow their passion... and very often they are amazingly
    elegant
    and cunning in seeing their project through (responsible). That is
    why
    I encourage the folks in charge not to make any kind of promises
    regarding what they will do to encourage projects emerging from the
    ost event. Participants will get the conditions in place to see their
    projects through.

    ---Yes, again my experience, coercion, control and such do shut down
    open space, not completely though: I have seen the force in a dormant
    stage and becoming quite alive when the conditions are right
    (prerequisites in place)... isn't it our experience that big CONTROL
    seems to shut down just about anything? In OST events I have actually
    seen efforts of BiG control being met by counter-activity (this is
    sometimes the effect of facilitator intervention when a space-invader
    tries his stuff or, and even more effective, the "group" grappling
    with space invasion/attempts at control... these observations I have
    made when there is a really burning business issue and absolutely
    nobody has the foggiest idea regarding the solution, least the folks
    with "authority".

    I really impress myself with your passion, Daniel. Maybe because I
    also have been trying to refine my understanding, find precise
    language, get my hands onto, etc. what it is that happens in
    os-events
    or even in os-organisations. In my os-facilitator-career, I have
    increasingly given up trying to understand it and focus more on
    what I
    see happening... which has increased my faible for stories. By now, I
    know that stories are fact, right, my facts.

    Have a great Sunday,
    cheers
    mmp


    On 30.03.2014 13:45, Daniel Mezick wrote:

    Hi Michael, Everyone,

    I'm sorry there are coercive mandates happening in Berlin, and
    that you
    have to experience them.

    Regarding the Sponsor for an OST meeting,
    I am saying that I believe this person must have enough formal
    authority
    ("sufficient+1") to be able to actually arrange, budget and
    convene the
    meeting. And that the authority that the Sponsor holds is
    conferred to
    him or her by the organization. Is this true in OST?

    Regarding the Participants,
    I am saying that I believe that after the Marketplace opens, the
    intention and in fact the reality of OST is that everyone has an
    equal
    standing in authority terms. At the start, no one person or group has
    any more authorization to act than any other person, regardless of
    their
    formally authorized role in the organization. Is this true in OST?

    For the record, I am not at all in favor of mandates. I am
    allergic to
    them. I believe mandates and other forms of coercion strongly
    discourage
    self-organization by the imposition of external authority over the
    person or group. Self-organization is impossible in scenarios where
    individuals and groups are not free to choose. Is this true in OST?

    This places out routinely EVERY SINGLE DAY in Agile adoptions.
    Formally
    authorized leadership imposes Agile practices on teams while at
    the same
    time encouraging teams to "self-organize". I for one have seldom
    if ever
    seen it actually work that way.

    And so I have my questions about authority in Open Space.

    I'm not being cute here: I'm hoping someone can help me
    break/refine my
    model of OST as it pertains to formal and informal authority, in the
    Open Space. I'm trying to use more precise language to explain what I
    think is going on in OST. In my view, the 1 Law and the 5 Principles
    make it clear everyone has equal informal authorization in OST,
    regardless of their formal title. I some ways the formal titles are
    suspended, as the space is held open for inquiry and dialogue.

    This is my current belief. I asking for help in determining if this
    belief is close to truth.

    Related Links:
    http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-and-power/
    http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-explained/

    Regards,
    Daniel



    On 3/30/14 5:23 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:

    Dear Dan, Jamie and Paul,
    is there a new (5th or 6th) principle emerging?
    Such as:
    "Whoever is authorized is the right people?"
    Or
    "Whoever is mandated is the right people?"

    Or is there a new prerequisite for the unfolding of the forces of
    selforganisation in sight?
    In addition to the 4,5 or 6 that we are often concerned about?
    Such as:
    "High level of authorisation"
    or
    "High level of mandation" (Palines for mandate, have a look at this
    link

    http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandation


    Or are these thoughts simply a manifestation of "old-paradigm",
    remnants of the realm of control?

    Control? Wasn't that the effort to shut down selforganisation towards
    zero?

    Heavy stuff for a sundrenched Sunday morning in Berlin where I and
    the
    entire population (including dogs and cats and other pets kept in
    human housing) are suffering from having been robbed of an hours time
    by authorities that are mandated to do such stuff.

    Oh yes, before I forget, there was the notion that "passion and
    responsibility" is all that is needed for "authorisation" (with the
    nagging suspicion that folks driven by passion and responsibility and
    even taking action under those influences walk through the walls and
    obstacles set up by those authorized to raise them as if they were
    thin air).

    Greetings from Berlin
    mmp


    On 29.03.2014 21:57, Daniel Mezick wrote:

    I am asking for help. Will you help me clarify my thinking?

    I'm wondering if 100% equivalence in authorization for all
    participants
    is actually a key/defining characteristic of any genuine and
    authentic
    Open Space event...


    First things first. Definitions:

    Authority: The right to do specific work

    Authorization: The conferring of authority

    Formal Authority: Authorization conferred from the formal
    organization
    to a person. Example: "the CEO".

    Informal Authority: Authorization conferred from peers, colleagues
    and
    co-workers. Example: "emergent leadership".


    Now let's get into it. I currently think, and believe, that:

    1. For an Open Space event inside an organization, the Sponsor must
    occupy a role with substantial formal authorization, definitely more
    than enough to actually authorize that OST event. The higher the
    level
    of formal authorization of the Sponsor, the better it is for the
    event
    overall.

    2. The Sponsor authorizes the participants- the "invitees"-- to meet
    together, and do the specific work of exploring and investigating the
    Theme. This "authorized work" is done in "authorized space"...in that
    specific place, for a specific period of time. The Sponsor explicitly
    authorizes all of the above and conveys this message after they stand
    up, and before they sit down, at the opening.

    2. The Facilitator is formally authorized by the Sponsor to do the
    specific work of OST event. Absent this authorization, the
    Facilitator
    has no standing.

    3. This is the big one: Everyone else, Sponsor included, has 100%
    equivalent authorization (100% equivalent "right to do work") as of
    the
    moment of opening of the Bulletin Board and/or the opening of the
    Marketplace.

    4. As the event progresses, authorization dynamics are in play. These
    "informal authorization" dynamics occur continuously throughout the
    day
    in real time, moment by moment. Those who experience net increases in
    levels of informal authorization as of the end of the meeting have
    membership in the "emergent leadership" group.

    I am very interested in what experienced folks think about the
    validity
    of the assertion in (3) above.

    Ex the Facilitator, does everyone else actually have 100% equivalent
    authorization in an OST meeting? Why or why not?
    Is this 100% equivalence of authorization actually a key/defining
    characteristic of any genuine and authentic Open Space event?

    Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide, and

    Kind Regards,
    Daniel

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