An Anishinaabe Elder from Fort William, Ontario, one time told me “Don’t say 
'all my relations’ - they are all YOURS!  You have to get your ego out of it.  
The proper term is ‘I belong to everything.’”

I notice that when I can access the truth of that thought, I feel deep 
belonging.  And when I can’t, I feel deep loneliness.

Chris

On Oct 1, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Romy Shovelton via OSList 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Chris
> 
> Thanks SO much for both these words….and the sense that they bring
> 
> I live in Wales and am learning Welsh… and did not know this word.
> 
> I have also worked with an Earth Wisdom from the Mayan and First Nations 
> lineage… where “all my relations” is something we say and remind ourselves of 
> each time we move in and out of the circle that is the Medicine Wheel. The 
> same essence is indeed in our moving in and out of the Open Space circle.
> 
> in appreciation
> 
> Romy
> 
> 
> Romy Shovelton
> 
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> On 1 Oct 2014, at 22:23, via OSList <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Lonely (Chris Corrigan via OSList)
>>   2. Re: Lonely (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
>>   3. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 (Anne Stadler via OSList)
>>   4. Re: A Virtual OST Success Story (Ashley Cooper via OSList)
>>   5. Re: Lonely (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList)
>>   6. Re: Lonely (Allie Middleton via OSList)
>>   7. Second Life (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)
>>   8. Re: Second Life (Eiwor via OSList)
>>   9. Lunch time (Eleder_BuM via OSList)
>>  10. Re: Second Life (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
>> 
>> From: Chris Corrigan via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>> Date: 1 October 2014 00:29:08 BST
>> To: John Watkins <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology email 
>> list <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin 
>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of 
>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple belonging". 
>> That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different homes and many 
>> different places where we feel connected in the world in English there's no 
>> word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging but I do like the 
>> idea that such a sentiment need to name. 
>> 
>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of 
>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is 
>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an 
>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 
>> 
>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free 
>> resources. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty well 
>>> defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>> 
>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>> And did you get what
>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>> I did.
>>> And what did you want?
>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>> beloved on the earth.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Annamarie,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of what 
>>>> we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>>> 
>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your question. 
>>>> http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites of lonely 
>>>> are (the emphasis in bold is my own):
>>>> 
>>>> * populated
>>>> * sociable
>>>> * befriended 
>>>> * close
>>>> * frequented
>>>> * inhabited 
>>>> * loved
>>>> * unlonely 
>>>> 
>>>>     Warm Regards,
>>>>     Harold
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there 
>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you 
>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>>> "lonely"? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [email protected] 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pluhar Consulting 
>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com 
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>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) 
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>> 
>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>> Date: 1 October 2014 00:54:11 BST
>> To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound 
>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'.
>> 
>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of 
>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African Ngali 
>> Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin 
>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of 
>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple 
>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different 
>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in 
>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging 
>>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name. 
>>> 
>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of 
>>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is 
>>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an 
>>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design 
>>> 
>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free 
>>> resources. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty 
>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>>> 
>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>>> And did you get what
>>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>>> I did.
>>>> And what did you want?
>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>>> beloved on the earth.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Annamarie,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of what 
>>>>> we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your 
>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites 
>>>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own):
>>>>> 
>>>>> * populated
>>>>> * sociable
>>>>> * befriended 
>>>>> * close
>>>>> * frequented
>>>>> * inhabited 
>>>>> * loved
>>>>> * unlonely 
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Warm Regards,
>>>>>     Harold
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there 
>>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you 
>>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>>>> "lonely"? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [email protected] 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks! 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting 
>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com 
>>>>>> 802.451.1941 
>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://shinsato.com
>>>>> twitter: @hajush
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>> 
>> -- 
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>> [email protected]
>> http://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Anne Stadler via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25
>> Date: 1 October 2014 01:00:15 BST
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, 
>> "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Anne Stadler <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Virtual OS!
>> Thanks Ben for your perseverance in keeping on with this experimenting.  
>> Such a virtual OS environment is truly important for an international
>> movement such as CharterforCompassion.org.  I feel the consistent use of OS 
>> will dramatically encourage lateral cross pollination and (i hope) self 
>> organizing to learn from each other and develop projects. 
>> You've become really superb at both the technical and human/spiritual sides 
>> of hosting and opening space.  
>> Thanks again!!
>> Love Anne
>> 
>> Your Self
>> Occupy
>> 100%
>> 
>> 
>> A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible
>> 
>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>> Skype: anne.m.stadler
>>   
>> Www.CompassionateSeattle.org  
>> www.CharterforCompassion.org
>> www.ProtecttheSacred.org
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:57 PM, via OSList <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>   1. Re: WOSonOS15 (Gail West via OSList)
>>>   2. Off topic - a bit (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList)
>>>   3. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 (Jeff Aitken via OSList)
>>>   4. Re: Off topic - a bit (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList)
>>>   5. Lonely (Harold Shinsato via OSList)
>>>   6. Re: Lonely (John Watkins via OSList)
>>>   7. A Virtual OST Success Story (Ben Roberts via OSList)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:57:09 +0800
>>> From: Gail West via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>,    World wide Open Space
>>>    Technology email list    <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> Karolina and team, Here's to a grand year of invitation and anticipation
>>> for WOSONOS 2015 in Poland!  It's on the calendar.  I remember
>>> conversations at Berlin WOSONOS that hinted of this in the near future.
>>> Along with others, I offer any support we can provide from Taiwan and Asia.
>>>   Gail
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well done Poland.  I will be in Europe next summer and perhaps it will
>>>> coincide with the event.  At any rate, you have my support and I?m happy to
>>>> speak with you in person if the experience of a former OSonOS host can 
>>>> help.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Lisa Heft - <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So beautifully said, dear Gerard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our
>>>> invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both inclusion
>>>> and opportunity.
>>>>> There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear
>>>> OSLIST and that you cannot see - person to person individually, both via
>>>> email and before-at-around-in the event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since a potential host team has to feel ready, with support and a
>>>> community of Open Space practice in their region, the time makes itself
>>>> known as capacities and energies emerge, and as those things shift, as 
>>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since a ?home team' can represent / be represented to invite several
>>>> years in a row if there are more than one offers at a certain WOSonOS / if
>>>> another country team is chosen - can offer each year / any year / when
>>>> feeling ready - to the in-person group sitting together at a WOSonOS -
>>>> there is always support of the realities of shifting energies, capacities
>>>> and resources.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since the group?s decision is based on feeling, seeing, asking about and
>>>> sensing invitation, offerings, energy, capacity and community, to me it is
>>>> not useful to say what someone said another year if they did not bring
>>>> another request to the WOSonOS to keep that energy and invitation alive -
>>>> something we do without too much difficulty as in those years when someone
>>>> invites again. I have done so several times in a row before my own country
>>>> was selected - and I trusted the group?s insight on when it became the
>>>> right time for my turn. It?s about sharing, after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the passion and energy of what was born and grew and blossomed - the
>>>> team, the invitation, the sensing and listening into the answer - was
>>>> evident at the event. The passion and responsibility, as you say, Gerard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To me, our job is to welcome, to support, to believe in what our
>>>> colleagues there felt and knew, and to ask how we may help in any way, as
>>>> we share this gathering back and forth and around the world.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are always Learning Exchanges and Fabulous Facilitation
>>>> Conferences and anything you want to call an OSonOS - I have named just
>>>> two. Ways any of us can host a wonderful learning and community gathering
>>>> such as this.
>>>>> There are always ways to decide to want to host this particular thing
>>>> called WOSonOS in future years. There are always ways for any of us to
>>>> support these actions, these invitations, these teams.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So nothing is limiting, everything is possible, and I offer my energies
>>>> and enthusiasm in support to say CONGRATULATIONS POLISH TEAM !!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lisa also known as Access Queen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:04 AM, openspacedk1 <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could not agree more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of
>>>> any WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the
>>>> notion passion and responsability
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to
>>>> a great WOSONOS 2015 in the beautiful city of Krakow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Open Space Institute Denmark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 06:54:03 -0400
>>> From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [OSList] Off topic - a bit
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there 
>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you 
>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question.
>>> 
>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>> "lonely"?
>>> 
>>> Feel free to respond to me off list..
>>> 
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>> 
>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>> 802.451.1941
>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 07:36:05 -0700
>>> From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>    <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Heres the direct link to Anne's paper about Spirited Work the open space 
>>> learning community. Thanks Anne!
>>> 
>>> http://collectivewisdominitiative.org/papers/stadler_reflections.htm
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]> 
>>> Date:09/29/2014  2:10 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
>>> To: 'Anne Stadler' <[email protected]>,'World wide Open Space 
>>> Technology email list' <[email protected]> 
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 
>>> 
>>> Anne ? How wonderful to ?see? you here. Spirited Work was a great 
>>> experience and experiment. We all learned, with many thanks to yourself!
>>> ?
>>> Harrison
>>> ?
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>>> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>> Anne Stadler via OSList
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:37 PM
>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22
>>> ?
>>> My observation: "authority in OS" soon rests with those who show "presence" 
>>> as defined by Otto Scharmer et al. You can see this appear particularly in 
>>> multi day OS sessions or when you use OS as a means of organizational 
>>> governance as we did in Spirited Work (see my writeup in 
>>> CollectiveWisdomInitiative.org about Spirited Work, an experimental OS 
>>> learning community of practice.)?
>>> When people show up, listen deeply and take responsibility for selves and 
>>> the whole, authority emerges.?
>>> (My version of Law of Two Feet supports that: ?take responsibility for what 
>>> you care about, & use your two feet to move in and out of situations 
>>> accordingly.) ?
>>> Thanks Daniel for the interesting question. ?Kind regards! Anne stadler
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Your Self
>>> Occupy
>>> 100%
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible
>>> ?
>>> Phone: 206-459-0227
>>> Skype: anne.m.stadler
>>> ??
>>> Www.CompassionateSeattle.org ?
>>> www.CharterforCompassion.org
>>> www.ProtecttheSacred.org
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:57 PM, via OSList <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
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>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>> ??1. wosonos2015 (Raffi Aftandelian via OSList)
>>> ??2. Re: Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> ?????(Daniel Mezick via OSList)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:14:19 -0700
>>> From: Raffi Aftandelian via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: OSlist <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [OSList] wosonos2015
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ?<[email protected]>
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>>> 
>>> ditto what chris said. as a co-org'r of a previous wosonos (in another 
>>> slavic country) happy to share my experience- the good, the differently 
>>> good, and the quite differently good- aspects of organizing such an event.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> laramtsa,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> raffi
>>> 
>>> ******
>>> 
>>> I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer,
>>> up to my chin in hypocrisy, double standards, a sense of entitlement, and 
>>> choking on overconsumption,
>>> 
>>> blissfully in denial about how 60% of my federal income taxes go to a 
>>> military
>>> 
>>> that sustains genocide and ecocide the world over
>>> 
>>> ...all in the name of democracy, freedom, and happiness for all
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- a riff off of Thic Nhat Hanh's Please Call Me By My True Names
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:37:12 -0400
>>> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>> 
>>> Hi Harold,
>>> 
>>> You say:
>>> 
>>> /"..I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and authority 
>>> from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we really be coerced? How 
>>> are we all already "opting in" to empower the "authorities"?/
>>> 
>>> //
>>> 
>>> /"...Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our stories?/
>>> 
>>> //
>>> 
>>> /"...I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would say to 
>>> such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST?/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmmm...interesting questions for sure.
>>> 
>>> My current belief is that authorization dynamics are central to the 
>>> general dynamics of Open Space. And if it is "Open Space all the time" 
>>> then authorization dynamics as desribed in my essay are also there... 
>>> all the time.
>>> 
>>> Regarding the Open Space meeting format: If we begin at the beginning; 
>>> that is, at the start of arranging an actual Open Space event in an 
>>> organization, we immediately work to identify and locate someone "duly 
>>> authorized" by the organization, to do the things the Sponsor does, and 
>>> say the things the Sponsor says. Someone to occupy the Sponsor role. To 
>>> do that, the person occupying the role must have substantial authority 
>>> in the organization, usually of the formal variety.
>>> 
>>> Right? Put another way: if the Sponsor is lacking in authorization, can 
>>> they actually be effective? Larger question: Can the meeting still 
>>> actually work? What about the post-meeting follow-through?
>>> 
>>> So here we see how /authorization shows up a the very start of any 
>>> contemplated Open Space event inside an organization/.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One last thing: last time I checked, "victims" are kind of rare in Open 
>>> Space. Something about the subtext of "the Law of 2 Feet...."
>>> 
>>> "...The Law of Two Feet concept was published in an article by Harrison 
>>> Owen <http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm>, a member of an 
>>> organization advocating Open Spaces Technology, a model for organizing 
>>> meetings that's based around open participation. Here's how Owen 
>>> describes the rule:
>>> 
>>> "...Briefly stated, this law says that every individual has two feet, 
>>> and must be prepared to use them. Responsibility for a successful 
>>> outcome in any Open Space Event resides with exactly one person---each 
>>> participant. Individuals can make a difference and must make a 
>>> difference. If that is not true in a given situation, they, and they 
>>> alone, must take responsibility to use their two feet, and move to a new 
>>> place where they can make a difference."
>>> 
>>> http://opensource.com/business/10/8/darwin-meets-dilbert-applying-law-two-feet-your-next-meeting
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/26/14 6:49 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Fantastic essay, Daniel. I'm a bit freaked out by Harrison talking
>>> about his "translator" after diving into T.S.Kuhn's book where he says
>>> paradigm shifts require "translators" because new and old paradigm
>>> holders live in different worlds, where even common terms may be
>>> fundamentally different.
>>> ?
>>> What I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and authority
>>> from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we really be coerced?
>>> How are we all already "opting in" to empower the "authorities"?
>>> ?
>>> Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our stories?
>>> ?
>>> I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would say to
>>> such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST?
>>> ?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harold
>>> ?
>>> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place
>>> I don't know... which is to say that I probably wouldn't say what you
>>> say in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my "translator" it
>>> comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can't help with the questions
>>> you have raised. Actually I think you are doing pretty well on your
>>> own, and (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous
>>> performance. Thanks!
>>> ?
>>> Harrison
>>> ?
>>> Winter Address
>>> ?
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>> ?
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>> ?
>>> 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>> ?
>>> Summer Address
>>> ?
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>> ?
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>> ?
>>> 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>> ?
>>> Websites
>>> ?
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>> ?
>>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>>> ?
>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>>> archives of OSLIST Go
>>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>> ?
>>> *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
>>> Mezick via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> ?
>>> Greetings to All,
>>> ?
>>> For the past several years I have attended conferences of the Group
>>> Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. I've
>>> studied their literature, and harvested some important learning as a
>>> result. One of the things I have come to understand a little bit
>>> better is the role of "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social
>>> systems.
>>> ?
>>> Link:
>>> www.akriceinstitute.org <http://www.akriceinstitute.org>
>>> ?
>>> Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with intent to 
>>> improve the results of my work in helping companies implement Agile
>>> ideas in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the
>>> folks get about 3 months to play with Agile (we carefully use the word
>>> "experimentation" with management,) then we do another Open Space
>>> after that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. The
>>> initial and subsequent Open Space events form a "safe" container or
>>> field in which the members can /learn/... as they explore how to
>>> /improve/ together by /experimenting/ with new practices, and see if
>>> they actually work. I call the process Open Agile Adoption.
>>> ?
>>> Link:
>>> OpenAgileAdoption.com
>>> ?
>>> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out of" most
>>> of the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is
>>> created. The key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is forced to
>>> do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is /coerced/ to /comply/. 
>>> Everyone is instead respectfully /invited/ to help /write/ the story,
>>> and be a /character/ in the story...of the contemplated process
>>> change. Open Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of experimentation and
>>> play.
>>> ?
>>> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the
>>> OST community, we discuss and talk a lot about self-organization,
>>> self-management and self-governance. The Agile community also talks
>>> about these ideas a lot.
>>> ?
>>> So I have some questions. What is really going on during
>>> self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What
>>> information is being sent and received? From whom, and by whom? Is the
>>> information about /authority/ important? How important? Can a social
>>> system self organize without regard to who has the right to do what
>>> work? /How do decisions that affect others get made in a
>>> self-organizing system?/
>>> ?
>>> Who decides about /who decides/? How important is the process of
>>> /authorization/ in a self-organizing system? Is self-organization in
>>> large part the process of dynamic authorization (and
>>> /de-authorization/) in real time?
>>> ?
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:09:06 +0000
>>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList    <[email protected]>
>>> To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>,    World wide
>>>    Open Space Technology email list    <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Off topic - a bit
>>> Message-ID:
>>>    <caejhslknum5ubq_ldr7ar4osbd1x-spm3kabazhurh__gov...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> I say, this is open space, and here we have a topic on the wall. I bring my
>>> passion to the wall and take responsibility of my own experience and
>>> participation in the topics.
>>> 
>>> So I share what I found in my internal dialogue while English is only my
>>> 3rd language.
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> I ask google:
>>> 
>>> https://www.google.is/search?q=define+lonely
>>> * sad because one has no friends or company. -> antonyms:    popular
>>> * without companions; solitary. -> antonyms:    sociable
>>> * (of a place) unfrequented and remote. -> antonyms:    populous, crowded
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> I ask opposite-dictionary
>>> 
>>> http://www.opposite-dictionary.com/
>>> 
>>> * antonyms: Accompanied
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> And I ask my gut
>>> 
>>> * antonyms: happy, content, frolicsome, patience, playful, gay,
>>> light-hearted, high-spirited...
>>> 
>>> *-*
>>> 
>>> and now I find the connection to open space as the keyword "high-spirited"
>>> connects to writings abut open space.
>>> 
>>> For opening the space with a proper topic will open up space for people to
>>> feel "high-spirited" and energized instead of lonely.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *I like to propose a new topic, "is it always possible to open up space for
>>> the lonely to find their passion? "*
>>> This topic touches upon me now for the news article I was just reading
>>> before opening my mail was about how hate-groups hiding behind religion use
>>> the lure of purpose to recruit the lonely and afraid people. (the example
>>> in the local article used heathendom and white-supremacy hate-groups).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30 September 2014 10:54, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there
>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you will
>>>> forgive me for asking an off topic question.
>>>> 
>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not
>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of
>>>> "lonely"?
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list..
>>>> 
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>>> 
>>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>>> 802.451.1941
>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> K?ri Gunnarsson
>>> [email protected]
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:15:54 -0600
>>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>    <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [OSList] Lonely
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>> 
>>> Annamarie,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of 
>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>> 
>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your 
>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites 
>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own):
>>> 
>>> * populated
>>> * *sociable*
>>> * befriended
>>> * *close*
>>> * frequented
>>> * inhabited
>>> * *loved*
>>> * unlonely
>>> 
>>>     Warm Regards,
>>>     Harold
>>> 
>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because 
>>>> there are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope 
>>>> that you will forgive me for asking an off topic question.
>>>> 
>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>> "lonely"?
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list..
>>>> 
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>>> 
>>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>>> 802.451.1941
>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:24 -0700
>>> From: John Watkins via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>,    World wide Open Space
>>>    Technology email list    <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty well 
>>> defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>> 
>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>> And did you get what
>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>> I did.
>>> And what did you want?
>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>> beloved on the earth.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Annamarie,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of what 
>>>> we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>>> 
>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your question. 
>>>> http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites of lonely 
>>>> are (the emphasis in bold is my own):
>>>> 
>>>> * populated
>>>> * sociable
>>>> * befriended 
>>>> * close
>>>> * frequented
>>>> * inhabited 
>>>> * loved
>>>> * unlonely 
>>>> 
>>>>    Warm Regards,
>>>>    Harold
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there 
>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you 
>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>>> "lonely"? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [email protected] 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pluhar Consulting 
>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com 
>>>>> 802.451.1941 
>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) 
>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Harold Shinsato
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://shinsato.com
>>>> twitter: @hajush
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:59:56 -0400
>>> From: Ben Roberts via OSList <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Brian Burt <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [OSList] A Virtual OST Success Story
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>> 
>>> As some of you know, I've been at this for a couple of years now. Today,
>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International
>>> <http://charterforcompassion.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=
>>> 110391&qid=5124428> , I was finally able to host a MaestroConference-based
>>> call that I felt truly lived up to the potential for "Open Space" in virtual
>>> form (in quotes since I know some of you purists might dispute that this
>>> really was OST!). 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Of course, it wasn't like being together in person for a day or two. Indeed,
>>> there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the
>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the "hackpad"
>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference's
>>> newest "social webinar" beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the
>>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad
>>> <http://www.bit.ly/cfc093014> ): 
>>> 
>>> .         We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90
>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas.
>>> 
>>> .         Six topics were initiated by participants
>>> 
>>> .         In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a "meet and greet"
>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to
>>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily
>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing
>>> 
>>> .         The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes
>>> 
>>> .         We ended with a full group "popcorn-style" harvest and some
>>> announcements
>>> 
>>> .         A number of participants attended a debrief after the official end
>>> of the call
>>> 
>>> .         A few participants also stayed on the line "overtime" to continue
>>> their topic conversations
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> MC's new "social webinar" worked beautifully, allowing participants to do
>>> the following:
>>> 
>>> .         Exercise the law of two feet (really!)
>>> 
>>> .         See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact
>>> info, if provided)
>>> 
>>> .         See who was talking or had their "hands" up
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Using "hackpad," we were able to do the following:
>>> 
>>> .         Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on the
>>> call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the six
>>> topics were initiated in advance.
>>> 
>>> .         Provide an index of topics and the "room numbers" for each (so
>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room)
>>> 
>>> .         Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad for
>>> each one (note that "social webinar" now also provides shared document
>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired)
>>> 
>>> .         Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended
>>> (this is still ongoing)
>>> 
>>> .         Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call
>>> 
>>> .         Compile a shared listing of resources
>>> 
>>> .         Make announcements and requests
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only
>>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or "social
>>> webinar." This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer,
>>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned.
>>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations
>>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone,
>>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these
>>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools or
>>> to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the
>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I
>>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very
>>> interested in promoting a series of large group "conversations that could
>>> change the world." Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to
>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be
>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near
>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale
>>> in this way is pretty exciting!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ben Roberts
>>> 
>>> The Conversation Collaborative
>>> 
>>> <http://www.conversationcollaborative.com/> www.
>>> ConversationCollaborative.com   
>>> 
>>> (203) 426-1039
>>> 
>>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ashley Cooper via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Virtual OST Success Story
>> Date: 1 October 2014 01:04:53 BST
>> To: Ben Roberts <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology 
>> email list <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Ashley Cooper <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Awesome. Congratulations Ben. Sounds wonderful!
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Ben Roberts via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, 
>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was finally 
>> able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived up to 
>> the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I know some 
>> of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. Indeed, 
>> there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the 
>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” 
>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s 
>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the 
>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad):
>> 
>> ·         We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 
>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas.
>> 
>> ·         Six topics were initiated by participants
>> 
>> ·         In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” 
>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to 
>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily 
>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing
>> 
>> ·         The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes
>> 
>> ·         We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some 
>> announcements
>> 
>> ·         A number of participants attended a debrief after the official end 
>> of the call
>> 
>> ·         A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue 
>> their topic conversations
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do 
>> the following:
>> 
>> ·         Exercise the law of two feet (really!)
>> 
>> ·         See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact 
>> info, if provided)
>> 
>> ·         See who was talking or had their “hands” up
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following:
>> 
>> ·         Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on the 
>> call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the six 
>> topics were initiated in advance.
>> 
>> ·         Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so 
>> that participants could move themselves to the right room)
>> 
>> ·         Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad for 
>> each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document 
>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired)
>> 
>> ·         Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended 
>> (this is still ongoing)
>> 
>> ·         Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call
>> 
>> ·         Compile a shared listing of resources
>> 
>> ·         Make announcements and requests
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only 
>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social 
>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, 
>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. 
>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations 
>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, 
>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these 
>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools or 
>> to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the 
>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I 
>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very 
>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could 
>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to 
>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be 
>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near 
>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale 
>> in this way is pretty exciting!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ben Roberts
>> 
>> The Conversation Collaborative
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>> Date: 1 October 2014 02:04:44 BST
>> To: "Harold Shinsato" <[email protected]>, "World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list" <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, World wide Open 
>> Space Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> OMG!  I wanted to keep quiet until everyone had a chance to offer their 
>> thoughts, (natural facilitator stance) but I must say that these thoughts 
>> and offerings are RICH.!  Thank you all most heart-feltily/fully.
>> 
>> The question remains about opposites to the word "lonely"..
>> 
>> Stephane (I can't find the keyboard for the accent) ... do your offered 
>> words have feeling associated with them? Like "lonely" does?
>> 
>> Aside from Stephane's response, I'm interested in that we have Celtic, 
>> African, and American Indian but not Indo-European... Comments?
>> 
>> Merci!
>> 
>> 
>> Annamarie Pluhar
>> 
>> Pluhar Consulting
>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>> 802.451.1941
>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
>> 
>> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:54, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound 
>>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'.
>>> 
>>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of 
>>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African 
>>> Ngali Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
>>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin 
>>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of 
>>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple 
>>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different 
>>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in 
>>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging 
>>>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name.
>>>> 
>>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of 
>>>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is 
>>>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an 
>>>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design
>>>> 
>>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com <http://www.chriscorrigan.com> for upcoming 
>>>> workshops, blog posts and free resources.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty 
>>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>>>> And did you get what
>>>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>>>> I did.
>>>>> And what did you want?
>>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>>>> beloved on the earth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annamarie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of 
>>>>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your 
>>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com <http://www.thesaurus.com/>. In 
>>>>>> English at least, some opposites of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is 
>>>>>> my own):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * populated
>>>>>> * *sociable*
>>>>>> * befriended
>>>>>> * *close*
>>>>>> * frequented
>>>>>> * inhabited
>>>>>> * *loved*
>>>>>> * unlonely
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>> Harold
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there 
>>>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you 
>>>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>>>>> "lonely"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>>>>>> 802.451.1941
>>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected]
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
>>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Harold Shinsato
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/>
>>>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> OSList mailing list
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>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
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>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
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>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> OSList mailing list
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>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Allie Middleton via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely
>> Date: 1 October 2014 02:36:50 BST
>> To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Allie Middleton <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> And of course in the Vedic tradition, where we sing the Sanskrit 'so hum' or 
>> 'sat nam' mantra together, when chanted with intention it's like the 
>> universal sound of OM...joint mind and heart, personal and transpersonal
>> and that practice seems to seal  the sense of connection - a practice
>>  aka - something that helps us experience and embrace the the opposite of 
>> loneliness 
>> 
>> This wisdom that arises from our bodies, this primordial delight of eternal 
>> life in connection with others that we experience in Open Space is also 
>> found in creative practices of sound and movement when we help each other to 
>> remember who we really are
>> 
>> As a Quaker child in NY,  all we did was to sit, and sit more, then when we 
>> sat together, the bizarre awareness of not being separate landed in us and 
>> then people branched out, creating new things 
>> Maybe Because they did not feel lonely
>> 
>> Creativity arose from that connection in stillness, belonging and silent, 
>> until something moved in us to share...
>> 
>> And now, the energy streams forth, just like Indras net...shimmering and 
>> opening toward a new
>> 
>> ????
>> 
>> so hum
>> 
>> Allie Middleton 
>> from the iPad
>> iPhone 518.669.9923 Skype - alliemiddleton
>> Create it! ...an extra miracle, extra and ordinary: the unthinkable can be 
>> thought....
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 21:04, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> OMG!  I wanted to keep quiet until everyone had a chance to offer their 
>>> thoughts, (natural facilitator stance) but I must say that these thoughts 
>>> and offerings are RICH.!  Thank you all most heart-feltily/fully.
>>> 
>>> The question remains about opposites to the word "lonely"..
>>> 
>>> Stephane (I can't find the keyboard for the accent) ... do your offered 
>>> words have feeling associated with them? Like "lonely" does?
>>> 
>>> Aside from Stephane's response, I'm interested in that we have Celtic, 
>>> African, and American Indian but not Indo-European... Comments?
>>> 
>>> Merci!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>> 
>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>> 802.451.1941
>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
>>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:54, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound 
>>>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'.
>>>> 
>>>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of 
>>>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African 
>>>> Ngali Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
>>>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin 
>>>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of 
>>>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple 
>>>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different 
>>>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in 
>>>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging 
>>>>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of 
>>>>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is 
>>>>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an 
>>>>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>>>> Harvest Moon Consultants
>>>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com <http://www.chriscorrigan.com> for upcoming 
>>>>> workshops, blog posts and free resources.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty 
>>>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
>>>>>> And did you get what
>>>>>> you wanted from this life, even so?
>>>>>> I did.
>>>>>> And what did you want?
>>>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself
>>>>>> beloved on the earth.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Annamarie,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very 
>>>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of 
>>>>>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your 
>>>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com <http://www.thesaurus.com/>. In 
>>>>>>> English at least, some opposites of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is 
>>>>>>> my own):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * populated
>>>>>>> * *sociable*
>>>>>>> * befriended
>>>>>>> * *close*
>>>>>>> * frequented
>>>>>>> * inhabited
>>>>>>> * *loved*
>>>>>>> * unlonely
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>>>> Harold
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because 
>>>>>>>> there are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope 
>>>>>>>> that you will forgive me for asking an off topic question.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not 
>>>>>>>> English....  Does your language have a word that is the opposite of 
>>>>>>>> "lonely"?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting
>>>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com
>>>>>>>> 802.451.1941
>>>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell)
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected]
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
>>>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>>>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Harold Shinsato
>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/>
>>>>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> OSList mailing list
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>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Harold Shinsato
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> http://shinsato.com
>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [OSList] Second Life
>> Date: 1 October 2014 09:13:06 BST
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free 
>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab?
>> 
>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, 
>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was finally 
>> able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived up to 
>> the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I know some 
>> of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. Indeed, 
>> there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the 
>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” 
>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s 
>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the 
>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad):
>> 
>> ·         We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 
>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas.
>> 
>> ·         Six topics were initiated by participants
>> 
>> ·         In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” 
>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to 
>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily 
>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing
>> 
>> ·         The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes
>> 
>> ·         We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some 
>> announcements
>> 
>> ·         A number of participants attended a debrief after the official end 
>> of the call
>> 
>> ·         A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue 
>> their topic conversations
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do 
>> the following:
>> 
>> ·         Exercise the law of two feet (really!)
>> 
>> ·         See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact 
>> info, if provided)
>> 
>> ·         See who was talking or had their “hands” up
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following:
>> 
>> ·         Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on the 
>> call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the six 
>> topics were initiated in advance.
>> 
>> ·         Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so 
>> that participants could move themselves to the right room)
>> 
>> ·         Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad for 
>> each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document 
>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired)
>> 
>> ·         Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended 
>> (this is still ongoing)
>> 
>> ·         Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call
>> 
>> ·         Compile a shared listing of resources
>> 
>> ·         Make announcements and requests
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only 
>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social 
>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, 
>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. 
>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations 
>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, 
>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these 
>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools or 
>> to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the 
>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I 
>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very 
>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could 
>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to 
>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be 
>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near 
>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale 
>> in this way is pretty exciting!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ben Roberts
>> 
>> The Conversation Collaborative
>> 
>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com  
>> 
>> (203) 426-1039
>> 
>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts
>> 
>> G+: [email protected]
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> <image001.jpg>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kári Gunnarsson
>> [email protected]
>> (+354) 864 5189
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Eiwor via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Second Life
>> Date: 1 October 2014 12:52:10 BST
>> To: "Kári Gunnarsson" <[email protected]>, "World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list" <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Eiwor <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology email 
>> list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> No, we created our own Open Space online version using Blackboard 
>> Collaborate together with a learnng management system connected to our 
>> website, collaborativeways.com. 
>> Blessings
>> Eiwor
>> 
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>>  
>> Genuine Contact Professional
>> Gateway Creation Tools
>> CollaborativeWays.com
>>  
>> +46 (0)70 2622946
>> 
>> 
>> 1 oktober 2014, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]> 
>> skrev:
>> 
>>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free 
>>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab?
>>> 
>>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, 
>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was 
>>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived 
>>> up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I 
>>> know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. 
>>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the 
>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” 
>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s 
>>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the 
>>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad):
>>> 
>>> ·         We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 
>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas.
>>> 
>>> ·         Six topics were initiated by participants
>>> 
>>> ·         In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” 
>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to 
>>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily 
>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing
>>> 
>>> ·         The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes
>>> 
>>> ·         We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some 
>>> announcements
>>> 
>>> ·         A number of participants attended a debrief after the official 
>>> end of the call
>>> 
>>> ·         A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue 
>>> their topic conversations
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do 
>>> the following:
>>> 
>>> ·         Exercise the law of two feet (really!)
>>> 
>>> ·         See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact 
>>> info, if provided)
>>> 
>>> ·         See who was talking or had their “hands” up
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following:
>>> 
>>> ·         Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on 
>>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the 
>>> six topics were initiated in advance.
>>> 
>>> ·         Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so 
>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room)
>>> 
>>> ·         Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad 
>>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document 
>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired)
>>> 
>>> ·         Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended 
>>> (this is still ongoing)
>>> 
>>> ·         Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call
>>> 
>>> ·         Compile a shared listing of resources
>>> 
>>> ·         Make announcements and requests
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only 
>>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social 
>>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, 
>>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. 
>>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations 
>>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, 
>>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these 
>>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools 
>>> or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the 
>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I 
>>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very 
>>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could 
>>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to 
>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be 
>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near 
>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale 
>>> in this way is pretty exciting!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Peace,
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ben Roberts
>>> 
>>> The Conversation Collaborative
>>> 
>>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com  
>>> 
>>> (203) 426-1039
>>> 
>>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts
>>> 
>>> G+: [email protected]
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> <image001.jpg>
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Kári Gunnarsson
>>> [email protected]
>>> (+354) 864 5189
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> From: Eleder_BuM via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [OSList] Lunch time
>> Date: 1 October 2014 15:46:39 BST
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
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>> Reply-To: Eleder_BuM <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi friends how are you?
>> 
>> Last time I opened space (sep 17th, HerriUni) I got some little learning I´d 
>> like to share...
>> 
>>    - In a one day OS meeting, it helps me a lot as facilitator *to have a
>>    good time (around 1 hour would do very well) to enjoy lunch
>> *(+coffee/nap/ride/...?)
>>    slowly.
>>    - *Best time for it, in my case would be, some time after the beginning
>>    of the second meeting. *For example, we had last day meetings scheduled
>>    for 11:15;  12:30 and 16:00. We had lscheduled unch time for the OS 
>> between
>>    14:00 and 16:00....And I had lunch around 12:50 and was finished around
>>    13:40. Quite good, because,...
>> 
>> This can help well because,...
>> 
>>    - My activity as facilitator is all the time coming before the group´s...
>>    - ... so my energy end up also sooner...
>>    - ... so my body asks for energy sooner
>>    - ...and we can be on the place well present to ring the bells before
>>    the main lunch time, facilitate the reports of the second round being 
>> typed
>>    on the laptops,...and joining some conversation too!
>>    - enjoying a slow lunch helps always so much!
>> 
>> Small thing most of you already know well, I suppose.
>> 
>> I share it because I feel that sometimes, in my overwhelming activity, I
>> missed this point and couldn´t, because of it, be so present,...
>> 
>> Any comments?
>> 
>> Go Poland! Maybe we meet there next year!
>> 
>> Enjoy life!
>> 
>> *@Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM>  *
>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com
>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com  (Basque)
>> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es (Spanish)
>> www.bilbohiria.com/irratsaioak/berbaz (Basque radio interviews)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Second Life
>> Date: 1 October 2014 21:25:26 BST
>> To: Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space 
>> Technology email list <[email protected]>
>> 
>> 
>> Kári,
>> 
>> The Radical Inclusion folks worked on developing an Open Space in Second 
>> Life back in 2009, and used Open Space in Second Life as part of a 150 
>> person online event June 5, 2010. Holger Nauheimer, Julianne Neumann, and 
>> others.
>> 
>> I'm looking through my old emails to look for tracks and trails. I didn't 
>> participate in their online unconference, only a small part of which was 
>> open space, and their NING site seems to have been decommissioned. The few 
>> meetings we held back in 2009, I do remember that the prospect of Open Space 
>> in Second Life looked like it would be largely consumed with training the 
>> participants in the use of Second Life. At least my own enthusiasm fizzled. 
>> There is a website for the exploratory meetings - http://osinsl.pbworks.com 
>> - but you have to request access and it doesn't have that much content.
>> 
>> I think there's a lot of promise in what Ben Roberts is talking about with 
>> Maestro Conference. They've been working on their Social Webinar for years 
>> now and it's great it's finally working.
>> 
>> I'm also thinking the MIT open source project mentioned a few weeks ago on 
>> the OSList has great potential for a low cost (or free if you can get the 
>> hosting and setup) online open space with video. 
>> https://unhangout.media.mit.edu/how-to-unhangout/.
>> 
>> A simple phone interface, or a familiar (like Google Hangout) platform would 
>> be much better than Second Life. Maybe in the future the training overhead 
>> won't be needed for a virtual world - thus the great value of a phone 
>> interface like Maestro. Everyone knows the phone.
>> 
>>     Cheers,
>>     Harold
>> 
>> On 10/1/14 2:13 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:
>>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free 
>>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab?
>>> 
>>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, 
>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was 
>>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived 
>>> up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I 
>>> know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. 
>>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the 
>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” 
>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s 
>>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the 
>>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad):
>>> 
>>> ·         We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 
>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas.
>>> 
>>> ·         Six topics were initiated by participants
>>> 
>>> ·         In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” 
>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to 
>>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily 
>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing
>>> 
>>> ·         The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes
>>> 
>>> ·         We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some 
>>> announcements
>>> 
>>> ·         A number of participants attended a debrief after the official 
>>> end of the call
>>> 
>>> ·         A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue 
>>> their topic conversations
>>> 
>>>  
>>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do 
>>> the following:
>>> 
>>> ·         Exercise the law of two feet (really!)
>>> 
>>> ·         See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact 
>>> info, if provided)
>>> 
>>> ·         See who was talking or had their “hands” up
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following:
>>> 
>>> ·         Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on 
>>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the 
>>> six topics were initiated in advance.
>>> 
>>> ·         Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so 
>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room)
>>> 
>>> ·         Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad 
>>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document 
>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired)
>>> 
>>> ·         Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended 
>>> (this is still ongoing)
>>> 
>>> ·         Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call
>>> 
>>> ·         Compile a shared listing of resources
>>> 
>>> ·         Make announcements and requests
>>> 
>>>  
>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only 
>>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social 
>>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, 
>>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. 
>>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations 
>>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, 
>>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these 
>>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools 
>>> or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the 
>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I 
>>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very 
>>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could 
>>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to 
>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be 
>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near 
>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale 
>>> in this way is pretty exciting!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Peace,
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Ben Roberts
>>> 
>>> The Conversation Collaborative
>>> 
>>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com  
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> -- 
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