thank you for that deep distinction Chris…. Romy Shovelton
Director Wikima and Tyddyn Retreat The Mid Wales Retreat & Holiday Centre www.walescottageandvenue.com Facebook: Tyddyn Retreat Twitter: @MidWalesRetreat [email protected] [email protected] skype: romy shovelton 07767 370739 Tyddyn y Pwll Carno Caersws Powys SY17 5JU On 2 Oct 2014, at 02:32, Chris Corrigan <[email protected]> wrote: > An Anishinaabe Elder from Fort William, Ontario, one time told me “Don’t say > 'all my relations’ - they are all YOURS! You have to get your ego out of it. > The proper term is ‘I belong to everything.’” > > I notice that when I can access the truth of that thought, I feel deep > belonging. And when I can’t, I feel deep loneliness. > > Chris > > On Oct 1, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Romy Shovelton via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Chris >> >> Thanks SO much for both these words….and the sense that they bring >> >> I live in Wales and am learning Welsh… and did not know this word. >> >> I have also worked with an Earth Wisdom from the Mayan and First Nations >> lineage… where “all my relations” is something we say and remind ourselves >> of each time we move in and out of the circle that is the Medicine Wheel. >> The same essence is indeed in our moving in and out of the Open Space circle. >> >> in appreciation >> >> Romy >> >> >> Romy Shovelton >> >> Director >> Wikima and Tyddyn Retreat >> The Mid Wales Retreat & Holiday Centre >> >> www.walescottageandvenue.com >> Facebook: Tyddyn Retreat >> Twitter: @MidWalesRetreat >> >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> skype: romy shovelton >> >> 07767 370739 >> >> Tyddyn y Pwll >> Carno >> Caersws >> Powys >> SY17 5JU >> >> >> On 1 Oct 2014, at 22:23, via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Lonely (Chris Corrigan via OSList) >>> 2. Re: Lonely (Harold Shinsato via OSList) >>> 3. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 (Anne Stadler via OSList) >>> 4. Re: A Virtual OST Success Story (Ashley Cooper via OSList) >>> 5. Re: Lonely (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList) >>> 6. Re: Lonely (Allie Middleton via OSList) >>> 7. Second Life (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList) >>> 8. Re: Second Life (Eiwor via OSList) >>> 9. Lunch time (Eleder_BuM via OSList) >>> 10. Re: Second Life (Harold Shinsato via OSList) >>> >>> From: Chris Corrigan via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely >>> Date: 1 October 2014 00:29:08 BST >>> To: John Watkins <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology email >>> list <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin >>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of >>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple >>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different >>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in >>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging >>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name. >>> >>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of >>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is >>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an >>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>> Harvest Moon Consultants >>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design >>> >>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free >>> resources. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty >>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely: >>>> >>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver >>>> And did you get what >>>> you wanted from this life, even so? >>>> I did. >>>> And what did you want? >>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself >>>> beloved on the earth. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>> >>>>> Annamarie, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of what >>>>> we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>>> >>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites >>>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own): >>>>> >>>>> * populated >>>>> * sociable >>>>> * befriended >>>>> * close >>>>> * frequented >>>>> * inhabited >>>>> * loved >>>>> * unlonely >>>>> >>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>> Harold >>>>> >>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there >>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you >>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>>> "lonely"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>>> >>>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://shinsato.com >>>>> twitter: @hajush >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely >>> Date: 1 October 2014 00:54:11 BST >>> To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound >>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'. >>> >>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of >>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African >>> Ngali Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. >>> >>> >>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote: >>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin >>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of >>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple >>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different >>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in >>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging >>>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name. >>>> >>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of >>>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is >>>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an >>>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>>> Harvest Moon Consultants >>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design >>>> >>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free >>>> resources. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty >>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely: >>>>> >>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver >>>>> And did you get what >>>>> you wanted from this life, even so? >>>>> I did. >>>>> And what did you want? >>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself >>>>> beloved on the earth. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Annamarie, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of >>>>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>>>> >>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites >>>>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own): >>>>>> >>>>>> * populated >>>>>> * sociable >>>>>> * befriended >>>>>> * close >>>>>> * frequented >>>>>> * inhabited >>>>>> * loved >>>>>> * unlonely >>>>>> >>>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>>> Harold >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there >>>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you >>>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>>>> "lonely"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://shinsato.com >>>>>> twitter: @hajush >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Harold Shinsato >>> [email protected] >>> http://shinsato.com >>> twitter: @hajush >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Anne Stadler via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 >>> Date: 1 October 2014 01:00:15 BST >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, >>> "[email protected]" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Anne Stadler <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Virtual OS! >>> Thanks Ben for your perseverance in keeping on with this experimenting. >>> Such a virtual OS environment is truly important for an international >>> movement such as CharterforCompassion.org. I feel the consistent use of OS >>> will dramatically encourage lateral cross pollination and (i hope) self >>> organizing to learn from each other and develop projects. >>> You've become really superb at both the technical and human/spiritual sides >>> of hosting and opening space. >>> Thanks again!! >>> Love Anne >>> >>> Your Self >>> Occupy >>> 100% >>> >>> >>> A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible >>> >>> Phone: 206-459-0227 >>> Skype: anne.m.stadler >>> >>> Www.CompassionateSeattle.org >>> www.CharterforCompassion.org >>> www.ProtecttheSacred.org >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:57 PM, via OSList <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: WOSonOS15 (Gail West via OSList) >>>> 2. Off topic - a bit (Annamarie Pluhar via OSList) >>>> 3. Re: OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 (Jeff Aitken via OSList) >>>> 4. Re: Off topic - a bit (K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList) >>>> 5. Lonely (Harold Shinsato via OSList) >>>> 6. Re: Lonely (John Watkins via OSList) >>>> 7. A Virtual OST Success Story (Ben Roberts via OSList) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:57:09 +0800 >>>> From: Gail West via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15 >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAP4=m4t--0jhvwuyfqoe5hycjghfpfz7uhxmkyjnb+zofsf...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Karolina and team, Here's to a grand year of invitation and anticipation >>>> for WOSONOS 2015 in Poland! It's on the calendar. I remember >>>> conversations at Berlin WOSONOS that hinted of this in the near future. >>>> Along with others, I offer any support we can provide from Taiwan and Asia. >>>> Gail >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well done Poland. I will be in Europe next summer and perhaps it will >>>>> coincide with the event. At any rate, you have my support and I?m happy >>>>> to >>>>> speak with you in person if the experience of a former OSonOS host can >>>>> help. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Lisa Heft - <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So beautifully said, dear Gerard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our >>>>> invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both >>>>> inclusion >>>>> and opportunity. >>>>>> There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear >>>>> OSLIST and that you cannot see - person to person individually, both via >>>>> email and before-at-around-in the event. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since a potential host team has to feel ready, with support and a >>>>> community of Open Space practice in their region, the time makes itself >>>>> known as capacities and energies emerge, and as those things shift, as >>>>> well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since a ?home team' can represent / be represented to invite several >>>>> years in a row if there are more than one offers at a certain WOSonOS / if >>>>> another country team is chosen - can offer each year / any year / when >>>>> feeling ready - to the in-person group sitting together at a WOSonOS - >>>>> there is always support of the realities of shifting energies, capacities >>>>> and resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since the group?s decision is based on feeling, seeing, asking about and >>>>> sensing invitation, offerings, energy, capacity and community, to me it is >>>>> not useful to say what someone said another year if they did not bring >>>>> another request to the WOSonOS to keep that energy and invitation alive - >>>>> something we do without too much difficulty as in those years when someone >>>>> invites again. I have done so several times in a row before my own country >>>>> was selected - and I trusted the group?s insight on when it became the >>>>> right time for my turn. It?s about sharing, after all. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the passion and energy of what was born and grew and blossomed - the >>>>> team, the invitation, the sensing and listening into the answer - was >>>>> evident at the event. The passion and responsibility, as you say, Gerard. >>>>>> >>>>>> To me, our job is to welcome, to support, to believe in what our >>>>> colleagues there felt and knew, and to ask how we may help in any way, as >>>>> we share this gathering back and forth and around the world. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are always Learning Exchanges and Fabulous Facilitation >>>>> Conferences and anything you want to call an OSonOS - I have named just >>>>> two. Ways any of us can host a wonderful learning and community gathering >>>>> such as this. >>>>>> There are always ways to decide to want to host this particular thing >>>>> called WOSonOS in future years. There are always ways for any of us to >>>>> support these actions, these invitations, these teams. >>>>>> >>>>>> So nothing is limiting, everything is possible, and I offer my energies >>>>> and enthusiasm in support to say CONGRATULATIONS POLISH TEAM !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lisa also known as Access Queen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:04 AM, openspacedk1 < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Thomas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could not agree more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of >>>>> any WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the >>>>> notion passion and responsability >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to >>>>> a great WOSONOS 2015 in the beautiful city of Krakow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gerard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Space Institute Denmark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Gail West, ICA* >>>> >>>> >>>> *3F, No. 12, Lane 5, Tien Mou W RdTaipei, Taiwan 111Ph) 8862) 2871-3150* >>>> email) [email protected] >>>> Skype) gwestica >>>> www.icatw.com >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/1b42faf0/attachment.html> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 06:54:03 -0400 >>>> From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [OSList] Off topic - a bit >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there >>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you >>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>> >>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>> "lonely"? >>>> >>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>> >>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>> 802.451.1941 >>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 07:36:05 -0700 >>>> From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Heres the direct link to Anne's paper about Spirited Work the open space >>>> learning community. Thanks Anne! >>>> >>>> http://collectivewisdominitiative.org/papers/stadler_reflections.htm >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> Date:09/29/2014 2:10 PM (GMT-08:00) >>>> To: 'Anne Stadler' <[email protected]>,'World wide Open Space >>>> Technology email list' <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 >>>> >>>> Anne ? How wonderful to ?see? you here. Spirited Work was a great >>>> experience and experiment. We all learned, with many thanks to yourself! >>>> ? >>>> Harrison >>>> ? >>>> Winter Address >>>> 7808 River Falls Drive >>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> 301-365-2093 >>>> ? >>>> Summer Address >>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. >>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>> 207-763-3261 >>>> ? >>>> Websites >>>> www.openspaceworld.com >>>> www.ho-image.com >>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives >>>> of OSLIST Go >>>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> ? >>>> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>> Anne Stadler via OSList >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:37 PM >>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 >>>> ? >>>> My observation: "authority in OS" soon rests with those who show >>>> "presence" as defined by Otto Scharmer et al. You can see this appear >>>> particularly in multi day OS sessions or when you use OS as a means of >>>> organizational governance as we did in Spirited Work (see my writeup in >>>> CollectiveWisdomInitiative.org about Spirited Work, an experimental OS >>>> learning community of practice.)? >>>> When people show up, listen deeply and take responsibility for selves and >>>> the whole, authority emerges.? >>>> (My version of Law of Two Feet supports that: ?take responsibility for >>>> what you care about, & use your two feet to move in and out of situations >>>> accordingly.) ? >>>> Thanks Daniel for the interesting question. ?Kind regards! Anne stadler >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Your Self >>>> Occupy >>>> 100% >>>> ? >>>> ? >>>> A world that works for ALL is a world of love made visible >>>> ? >>>> Phone: 206-459-0227 >>>> Skype: anne.m.stadler >>>> ?? >>>> Www.CompassionateSeattle.org ? >>>> www.CharterforCompassion.org >>>> www.ProtecttheSacred.org >>>> ? >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 4:57 PM, via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send OSList mailing list submissions to >>>> ? [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> ? ?http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> ? [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> ? [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> ??1. wosonos2015 (Raffi Aftandelian via OSList) >>>> ??2. Re: Authority Distribution in Open Space >>>> ?????(Daniel Mezick via OSList) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:14:19 -0700 >>>> From: Raffi Aftandelian via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: OSlist <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [OSList] wosonos2015 >>>> Message-ID: >>>> ? ?<[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> ditto what chris said. as a co-org'r of a previous wosonos (in another >>>> slavic country) happy to share my experience- the good, the differently >>>> good, and the quite differently good- aspects of organizing such an event. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> laramtsa, >>>> >>>> >>>> raffi >>>> >>>> ****** >>>> >>>> I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, >>>> up to my chin in hypocrisy, double standards, a sense of entitlement, and >>>> choking on overconsumption, >>>> >>>> blissfully in denial about how 60% of my federal income taxes go to a >>>> military >>>> >>>> that sustains genocide and ecocide the world over >>>> >>>> ...all in the name of democracy, freedom, and happiness for all >>>> >>>> >>>> -- a riff off of Thic Nhat Hanh's Please Call Me By My True Names >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140927/66f1e2f4/attachment.html> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 08:37:12 -0400 >>>> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> Hi Harold, >>>> >>>> You say: >>>> >>>> /"..I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and authority >>>> from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we really be coerced? How >>>> are we all already "opting in" to empower the "authorities"?/ >>>> >>>> // >>>> >>>> /"...Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our stories?/ >>>> >>>> // >>>> >>>> /"...I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would say to >>>> such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST?/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmmm...interesting questions for sure. >>>> >>>> My current belief is that authorization dynamics are central to the >>>> general dynamics of Open Space. And if it is "Open Space all the time" >>>> then authorization dynamics as desribed in my essay are also there... >>>> all the time. >>>> >>>> Regarding the Open Space meeting format: If we begin at the beginning; >>>> that is, at the start of arranging an actual Open Space event in an >>>> organization, we immediately work to identify and locate someone "duly >>>> authorized" by the organization, to do the things the Sponsor does, and >>>> say the things the Sponsor says. Someone to occupy the Sponsor role. To >>>> do that, the person occupying the role must have substantial authority >>>> in the organization, usually of the formal variety. >>>> >>>> Right? Put another way: if the Sponsor is lacking in authorization, can >>>> they actually be effective? Larger question: Can the meeting still >>>> actually work? What about the post-meeting follow-through? >>>> >>>> So here we see how /authorization shows up a the very start of any >>>> contemplated Open Space event inside an organization/. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One last thing: last time I checked, "victims" are kind of rare in Open >>>> Space. Something about the subtext of "the Law of 2 Feet...." >>>> >>>> "...The Law of Two Feet concept was published in an article by Harrison >>>> Owen <http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm>, a member of an >>>> organization advocating Open Spaces Technology, a model for organizing >>>> meetings that's based around open participation. Here's how Owen >>>> describes the rule: >>>> >>>> "...Briefly stated, this law says that every individual has two feet, >>>> and must be prepared to use them. Responsibility for a successful >>>> outcome in any Open Space Event resides with exactly one person---each >>>> participant. Individuals can make a difference and must make a >>>> difference. If that is not true in a given situation, they, and they >>>> alone, must take responsibility to use their two feet, and move to a new >>>> place where they can make a difference." >>>> >>>> http://opensource.com/business/10/8/darwin-meets-dilbert-applying-law-two-feet-your-next-meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/26/14 6:49 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Fantastic essay, Daniel. I'm a bit freaked out by Harrison talking >>>> about his "translator" after diving into T.S.Kuhn's book where he says >>>> paradigm shifts require "translators" because new and old paradigm >>>> holders live in different worlds, where even common terms may be >>>> fundamentally different. >>>> ? >>>> What I struggle to translate is the concept of coercion and authority >>>> from the vantage of "it's all open space". Can we really be coerced? >>>> How are we all already "opting in" to empower the "authorities"? >>>> ? >>>> Could we just be volunteering for the victim part of our stories? >>>> ? >>>> I have some thoughts about this, but I wonder what you would say to >>>> such a challenge to the relevance of "authority" in OST? >>>> ? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Harold >>>> ? >>>> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place >>>> I don't know... which is to say that I probably wouldn't say what you >>>> say in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my "translator" it >>>> comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can't help with the questions >>>> you have raised. Actually I think you are doing pretty well on your >>>> own, and (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous >>>> performance. Thanks! >>>> ? >>>> Harrison >>>> ? >>>> Winter Address >>>> ? >>>> 7808 River Falls Drive >>>> ? >>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> ? >>>> 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093> >>>> ? >>>> Summer Address >>>> ? >>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. >>>> ? >>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>> ? >>>> 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261> >>>> ? >>>> Websites >>>> ? >>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com> >>>> ? >>>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> >>>> ? >>>> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the >>>> archives of OSLIST Go >>>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> ? >>>> *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Daniel >>>> Mezick via OSList >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space >>>> ? >>>> Greetings to All, >>>> ? >>>> For the past several years I have attended conferences of the Group >>>> Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. I've >>>> studied their literature, and harvested some important learning as a >>>> result. One of the things I have come to understand a little bit >>>> better is the role of "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social >>>> systems. >>>> ? >>>> Link: >>>> www.akriceinstitute.org <http://www.akriceinstitute.org> >>>> ? >>>> Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with intent to >>>> improve the results of my work in helping companies implement Agile >>>> ideas in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the >>>> folks get about 3 months to play with Agile (we carefully use the word >>>> "experimentation" with management,) then we do another Open Space >>>> after that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. The >>>> initial and subsequent Open Space events form a "safe" container or >>>> field in which the members can /learn/... as they explore how to >>>> /improve/ together by /experimenting/ with new practices, and see if >>>> they actually work. I call the process Open Agile Adoption. >>>> ? >>>> Link: >>>> OpenAgileAdoption.com >>>> ? >>>> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out of" most >>>> of the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is >>>> created. The key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is forced to >>>> do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is /coerced/ to /comply/. >>>> Everyone is instead respectfully /invited/ to help /write/ the story, >>>> and be a /character/ in the story...of the contemplated process >>>> change. Open Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of experimentation and >>>> play. >>>> ? >>>> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the >>>> OST community, we discuss and talk a lot about self-organization, >>>> self-management and self-governance. The Agile community also talks >>>> about these ideas a lot. >>>> ? >>>> So I have some questions. What is really going on during >>>> self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What >>>> information is being sent and received? From whom, and by whom? Is the >>>> information about /authority/ important? How important? Can a social >>>> system self organize without regard to who has the right to do what >>>> work? /How do decisions that affect others get made in a >>>> self-organizing system?/ >>>> ? >>>> Who decides about /who decides/? How important is the process of >>>> /authorization/ in a self-organizing system? Is self-organization in >>>> large part the process of dynamic authorization (and >>>> /de-authorization/) in real time? >>>> ? >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/763f3d96/attachment-0001.htm> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:09:06 +0000 >>>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, World wide >>>> Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Off topic - a bit >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <caejhslknum5ubq_ldr7ar4osbd1x-spm3kabazhurh__gov...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> I say, this is open space, and here we have a topic on the wall. I bring my >>>> passion to the wall and take responsibility of my own experience and >>>> participation in the topics. >>>> >>>> So I share what I found in my internal dialogue while English is only my >>>> 3rd language. >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> I ask google: >>>> >>>> https://www.google.is/search?q=define+lonely >>>> * sad because one has no friends or company. -> antonyms: popular >>>> * without companions; solitary. -> antonyms: sociable >>>> * (of a place) unfrequented and remote. -> antonyms: populous, crowded >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> I ask opposite-dictionary >>>> >>>> http://www.opposite-dictionary.com/ >>>> >>>> * antonyms: Accompanied >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> And I ask my gut >>>> >>>> * antonyms: happy, content, frolicsome, patience, playful, gay, >>>> light-hearted, high-spirited... >>>> >>>> *-* >>>> >>>> and now I find the connection to open space as the keyword "high-spirited" >>>> connects to writings abut open space. >>>> >>>> For opening the space with a proper topic will open up space for people to >>>> feel "high-spirited" and energized instead of lonely. >>>> >>>> >>>> *I like to propose a new topic, "is it always possible to open up space for >>>> the lonely to find their passion? "* >>>> This topic touches upon me now for the news article I was just reading >>>> before opening my mail was about how hate-groups hiding behind religion use >>>> the lure of purpose to recruit the lonely and afraid people. (the example >>>> in the local article used heathendom and white-supremacy hate-groups). >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 September 2014 10:54, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there >>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you >>>>> will >>>>> forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>> >>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>> "lonely"? >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>> >>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> K?ri Gunnarsson >>>> [email protected] >>>> (+354) 864 5189 >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/758f96d1/attachment-0001.htm> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:15:54 -0600 >>>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [OSList] Lonely >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> Annamarie, >>>> >>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of >>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>> >>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites >>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own): >>>> >>>> * populated >>>> * *sociable* >>>> * befriended >>>> * *close* >>>> * frequented >>>> * inhabited >>>> * *loved* >>>> * unlonely >>>> >>>> Warm Regards, >>>> Harold >>>> >>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because >>>>> there are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope >>>>> that you will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>> >>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>> "lonely"? >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>> >>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Harold Shinsato >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://shinsato.com >>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/67d345c3/attachment-0001.htm> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:24 -0700 >>>> From: John Watkins via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty >>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely: >>>> >>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver >>>> And did you get what >>>> you wanted from this life, even so? >>>> I did. >>>> And what did you want? >>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself >>>> beloved on the earth. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>> >>>>> Annamarie, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of what >>>>> we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>>> >>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com. In English at least, some opposites >>>>> of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is my own): >>>>> >>>>> * populated >>>>> * sociable >>>>> * befriended >>>>> * close >>>>> * frequented >>>>> * inhabited >>>>> * loved >>>>> * unlonely >>>>> >>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>> Harold >>>>> >>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because there >>>>>> are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope that you >>>>>> will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>>> "lonely"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>>> >>>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://shinsato.com >>>>> twitter: @hajush >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/1edb48df/attachment.htm> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:59:56 -0400 >>>> From: Ben Roberts via OSList <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Brian Burt <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [OSList] A Virtual OST Success Story >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> As some of you know, I've been at this for a couple of years now. Today, >>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International >>>> <http://charterforcompassion.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u= >>>> 110391&qid=5124428> , I was finally able to host a MaestroConference-based >>>> call that I felt truly lived up to the potential for "Open Space" in >>>> virtual >>>> form (in quotes since I know some of you purists might dispute that this >>>> really was OST!). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course, it wasn't like being together in person for a day or two. >>>> Indeed, >>>> there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the >>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the "hackpad" >>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference's >>>> newest "social webinar" beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the >>>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad >>>> <http://www.bit.ly/cfc093014> ): >>>> >>>> . We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 >>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas. >>>> >>>> . Six topics were initiated by participants >>>> >>>> . In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a "meet and greet" >>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to >>>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily >>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing >>>> >>>> . The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes >>>> >>>> . We ended with a full group "popcorn-style" harvest and some >>>> announcements >>>> >>>> . A number of participants attended a debrief after the official >>>> end >>>> of the call >>>> >>>> . A few participants also stayed on the line "overtime" to continue >>>> their topic conversations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> MC's new "social webinar" worked beautifully, allowing participants to do >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> . Exercise the law of two feet (really!) >>>> >>>> . See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact >>>> info, if provided) >>>> >>>> . See who was talking or had their "hands" up >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Using "hackpad," we were able to do the following: >>>> >>>> . Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on >>>> the >>>> call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the six >>>> topics were initiated in advance. >>>> >>>> . Provide an index of topics and the "room numbers" for each (so >>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room) >>>> >>>> . Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad >>>> for >>>> each one (note that "social webinar" now also provides shared document >>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired) >>>> >>>> . Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended >>>> (this is still ongoing) >>>> >>>> . Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call >>>> >>>> . Compile a shared listing of resources >>>> >>>> . Make announcements and requests >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only >>>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or "social >>>> webinar." This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, >>>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. >>>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations >>>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, >>>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these >>>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools >>>> or >>>> to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the >>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I >>>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very >>>> interested in promoting a series of large group "conversations that could >>>> change the world." Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to >>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be >>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near >>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale >>>> in this way is pretty exciting! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Roberts >>>> >>>> The Conversation Collaborative >>>> >>>> <http://www.conversationcollaborative.com/> www. >>>> ConversationCollaborative.com >>>> >>>> (203) 426-1039 >>>> >>>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts >>>> >>>> G+: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> tagxedo 1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/fc8376d4/attachment.htm> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: not available >>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>> Size: 25314 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: >>>> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20140930/fc8376d4/attachment.jpeg> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Subject: Digest Footer >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of OSList Digest, Vol 43, Issue 25 >>>> ************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ashley Cooper via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Virtual OST Success Story >>> Date: 1 October 2014 01:04:53 BST >>> To: Ben Roberts <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology >>> email list <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Ashley Cooper <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Awesome. Congratulations Ben. Sounds wonderful! >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Ben Roberts via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, >>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was >>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived >>> up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I >>> know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!). >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. >>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the >>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” >>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s >>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the >>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad): >>> >>> · We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 >>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas. >>> >>> · Six topics were initiated by participants >>> >>> · In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” >>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to >>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily >>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing >>> >>> · The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes >>> >>> · We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some >>> announcements >>> >>> · A number of participants attended a debrief after the official >>> end of the call >>> >>> · A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue >>> their topic conversations >>> >>> >>> >>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do >>> the following: >>> >>> · Exercise the law of two feet (really!) >>> >>> · See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact >>> info, if provided) >>> >>> · See who was talking or had their “hands” up >>> >>> >>> >>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following: >>> >>> · Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on >>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the >>> six topics were initiated in advance. >>> >>> · Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so >>> that participants could move themselves to the right room) >>> >>> · Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad >>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document >>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired) >>> >>> · Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended >>> (this is still ongoing) >>> >>> · Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call >>> >>> · Compile a shared listing of resources >>> >>> · Make announcements and requests >>> >>> >>> >>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only >>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social >>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, >>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. >>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations >>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, >>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these >>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools >>> or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them. >>> >>> >>> >>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the >>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I >>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very >>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could >>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to >>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be >>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near >>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale >>> in this way is pretty exciting! >>> >>> >>> >>> Peace, >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben Roberts >>> >>> The Conversation Collaborative >>> >>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com >>> >>> (203) 426-1039 >>> >>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts >>> >>> G+: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ashley Cooper >>> Co-Founder & Learning Architect >>> www.mycelium.is >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Annamarie Pluhar via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely >>> Date: 1 October 2014 02:04:44 BST >>> To: "Harold Shinsato" <[email protected]>, "World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, World wide >>> Open Space Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> OMG! I wanted to keep quiet until everyone had a chance to offer their >>> thoughts, (natural facilitator stance) but I must say that these thoughts >>> and offerings are RICH.! Thank you all most heart-feltily/fully. >>> >>> The question remains about opposites to the word "lonely".. >>> >>> Stephane (I can't find the keyboard for the accent) ... do your offered >>> words have feeling associated with them? Like "lonely" does? >>> >>> Aside from Stephane's response, I'm interested in that we have Celtic, >>> African, and American Indian but not Indo-European... Comments? >>> >>> Merci! >>> >>> >>> Annamarie Pluhar >>> >>> Pluhar Consulting >>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>> 802.451.1941 >>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>> >>> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:54, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>> >>>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound >>>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'. >>>> >>>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of >>>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African >>>> Ngali Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote: >>>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin >>>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of >>>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple >>>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different >>>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in >>>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple belonging >>>>> but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name. >>>>> >>>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples of >>>>> North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but is >>>>> actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as good an >>>>> opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>>>> Harvest Moon Consultants >>>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design >>>>> >>>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com <http://www.chriscorrigan.com> for upcoming >>>>> workshops, blog posts and free resources. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty >>>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely: >>>>>> >>>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver >>>>>> And did you get what >>>>>> you wanted from this life, even so? >>>>>> I did. >>>>>> And what did you want? >>>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself >>>>>> beloved on the earth. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Annamarie, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of >>>>>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com <http://www.thesaurus.com/>. In >>>>>>> English at least, some opposites of lonely are (the emphasis in bold is >>>>>>> my own): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * populated >>>>>>> * *sociable* >>>>>>> * befriended >>>>>>> * *close* >>>>>>> * frequented >>>>>>> * inhabited >>>>>>> * *loved* >>>>>>> * unlonely >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>>>> Harold >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because >>>>>>>> there are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope >>>>>>>> that you will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>>>>> "lonely"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/> >>>>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Harold Shinsato >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://shinsato.com >>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Allie Middleton via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Lonely >>> Date: 1 October 2014 02:36:50 BST >>> To: Annamarie Pluhar <[email protected]>, World wide Open >>> Space Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Allie Middleton <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> And of course in the Vedic tradition, where we sing the Sanskrit 'so hum' >>> or 'sat nam' mantra together, when chanted with intention it's like the >>> universal sound of OM...joint mind and heart, personal and transpersonal >>> and that practice seems to seal the sense of connection - a practice >>> aka - something that helps us experience and embrace the the opposite of >>> loneliness >>> >>> This wisdom that arises from our bodies, this primordial delight of eternal >>> life in connection with others that we experience in Open Space is also >>> found in creative practices of sound and movement when we help each other >>> to remember who we really are >>> >>> As a Quaker child in NY, all we did was to sit, and sit more, then when we >>> sat together, the bizarre awareness of not being separate landed in us and >>> then people branched out, creating new things >>> Maybe Because they did not feel lonely >>> >>> Creativity arose from that connection in stillness, belonging and silent, >>> until something moved in us to share... >>> >>> And now, the energy streams forth, just like Indras net...shimmering and >>> opening toward a new >>> >>> ???? >>> >>> so hum >>> >>> Allie Middleton >>> from the iPad >>> iPhone 518.669.9923 Skype - alliemiddleton >>> Create it! ...an extra miracle, extra and ordinary: the unthinkable can be >>> thought.... >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 21:04, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> OMG! I wanted to keep quiet until everyone had a chance to offer their >>>> thoughts, (natural facilitator stance) but I must say that these thoughts >>>> and offerings are RICH.! Thank you all most heart-feltily/fully. >>>> >>>> The question remains about opposites to the word "lonely".. >>>> >>>> Stephane (I can't find the keyboard for the accent) ... do your offered >>>> words have feeling associated with them? Like "lonely" does? >>>> >>>> Aside from Stephane's response, I'm interested in that we have Celtic, >>>> African, and American Indian but not Indo-European... Comments? >>>> >>>> Merci! >>>> >>>> >>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>> >>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>> 802.451.1941 >>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>> >>>> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:54, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris - thanks for the tie back to Cynefin! It does sound like a profound >>>>> opposite of lonely, 'your places of multiple belongings'. >>>>> >>>>> Your explanation of Cynefin stimulated my recollection of the meaning of >>>>> another possible opposite of lonely, the word Ubuntu, from the African >>>>> Ngali Bantu language meaning 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/30/14 5:29 PM, Chris Corrigan wrote: >>>>>> Although I don't speak Welsh, one word I find very compelling is Cynefin >>>>>> pronounced "kuh-NIV-en". I know the word because it's the name of of >>>>>> complexity framework. But it also means "your places of multiple >>>>>> belonging". That refers to the fact that all of us feel many different >>>>>> homes and many different places where we feel connected in the world in >>>>>> English there's no word that can capture this sense of multiple >>>>>> belonging but I do like the idea that such a sentiment need to name. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Anishnabemowin which is the language of Ojibway and related peoples >>>>>> of North America, the word indinewmaganik means "all my relations" but >>>>>> is actually better translated as "I belong to everything." That's as >>>>>> good an opposite of "lonely" as I can think of. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>>>>> Harvest Moon Consultants >>>>>> Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design >>>>>> >>>>>> Check www.chriscorrigan.com <http://www.chriscorrigan.com> for upcoming >>>>>> workshops, blog posts and free resources. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:19 PM, John Watkins via OSList >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty >>>>>>> well defines my sense of the opposite of lonely: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver >>>>>>> And did you get what >>>>>>> you wanted from this life, even so? >>>>>>> I did. >>>>>>> And what did you want? >>>>>>> To call myself beloved, to feel myself >>>>>>> beloved on the earth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Annamarie, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you for a lovely question! The opposite of lonely is what I very >>>>>>>> often experience in Open Space. This theme also resonates to much of >>>>>>>> what we talked about on the OS Hotline today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I must confess to have used an internet thesaurus to answer your >>>>>>>> question. http://www.thesaurus.com <http://www.thesaurus.com/>. In >>>>>>>> English at least, some opposites of lonely are (the emphasis in bold >>>>>>>> is my own): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * populated >>>>>>>> * *sociable* >>>>>>>> * befriended >>>>>>>> * *close* >>>>>>>> * frequented >>>>>>>> * inhabited >>>>>>>> * *loved* >>>>>>>> * unlonely >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>>>>> Harold >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/30/14 4:54 AM, Annamarie Pluhar via OSList wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For work that I'm doing that has nothing to do with OS... because >>>>>>>>> there are a lot of people on this list who are multi-lingual I hope >>>>>>>>> that you will forgive me for asking an off topic question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For those who have a mother tongue (father tongue?) that is not >>>>>>>>> English.... Does your language have a word that is the opposite of >>>>>>>>> "lonely"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feel free to respond to me off list.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Annamarie Pluhar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pluhar Consulting >>>>>>>>> http://www.pluharconsulting.com >>>>>>>>> 802.451.1941 >>>>>>>>> 802.579.5975 (cell) >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/> >>>>>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Harold Shinsato >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> http://shinsato.com >>>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [OSList] Second Life >>> Date: 1 October 2014 09:13:06 BST >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]>, World wide Open >>> Space Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free >>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab? >>> >>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, >>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was >>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly lived >>> up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes since I >>> know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!). >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. >>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the >>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” >>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s >>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of the >>> process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad): >>> >>> · We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 >>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas. >>> >>> · Six topics were initiated by participants >>> >>> · In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” >>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place to >>> welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily >>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing >>> >>> · The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes >>> >>> · We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some >>> announcements >>> >>> · A number of participants attended a debrief after the official >>> end of the call >>> >>> · A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to continue >>> their topic conversations >>> >>> >>> >>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do >>> the following: >>> >>> · Exercise the law of two feet (really!) >>> >>> · See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and contact >>> info, if provided) >>> >>> · See who was talking or had their “hands” up >>> >>> >>> >>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following: >>> >>> · Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on >>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of the >>> six topics were initiated in advance. >>> >>> · Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so >>> that participants could move themselves to the right room) >>> >>> · Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad >>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document >>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired) >>> >>> · Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended >>> (this is still ongoing) >>> >>> · Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call >>> >>> · Compile a shared listing of resources >>> >>> · Make announcements and requests >>> >>> >>> >>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones only >>> (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or “social >>> webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a computer, >>> and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons learned. >>> The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online explanations >>> in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to engage (phone, >>> hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or more of these >>> elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to use these tools >>> or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without them. >>> >>> >>> >>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the >>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that I >>> feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very >>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could >>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to >>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be >>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near >>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale >>> in this way is pretty exciting! >>> >>> >>> >>> Peace, >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ben Roberts >>> >>> The Conversation Collaborative >>> >>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com >>> >>> (203) 426-1039 >>> >>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts >>> >>> G+: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kári Gunnarsson >>> [email protected] >>> (+354) 864 5189 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Eiwor via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Second Life >>> Date: 1 October 2014 12:52:10 BST >>> To: "Kári Gunnarsson" <[email protected]>, "World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Eiwor <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space Technology >>> email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> No, we created our own Open Space online version using Blackboard >>> Collaborate together with a learnng management system connected to our >>> website, collaborativeways.com. >>> Blessings >>> Eiwor >>> >>> För människor och organisationer - för samarbete och utveckling >>> >>> Genuine Contact Professional >>> Gateway Creation Tools >>> CollaborativeWays.com >>> >>> +46 (0)70 2622946 >>> >>> >>> 1 oktober 2014, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList <[email protected]> >>> skrev: >>> >>>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free >>>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab? >>>> >>>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, >>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was >>>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly >>>> lived up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes >>>> since I know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. >>>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the >>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” >>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s >>>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of >>>> the process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad): >>>> >>>> · We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 >>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas. >>>> >>>> · Six topics were initiated by participants >>>> >>>> · In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” >>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place >>>> to welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily >>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing >>>> >>>> · The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes >>>> >>>> · We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some >>>> announcements >>>> >>>> · A number of participants attended a debrief after the official >>>> end of the call >>>> >>>> · A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to >>>> continue their topic conversations >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> · Exercise the law of two feet (really!) >>>> >>>> · See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and >>>> contact info, if provided) >>>> >>>> · See who was talking or had their “hands” up >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following: >>>> >>>> · Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on >>>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of >>>> the six topics were initiated in advance. >>>> >>>> · Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so >>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room) >>>> >>>> · Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad >>>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document >>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired) >>>> >>>> · Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended >>>> (this is still ongoing) >>>> >>>> · Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call >>>> >>>> · Compile a shared listing of resources >>>> >>>> · Make announcements and requests >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones >>>> only (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or >>>> “social webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a >>>> computer, and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons >>>> learned. The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online >>>> explanations in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to >>>> engage (phone, hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or >>>> more of these elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to >>>> use these tools or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without >>>> them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the >>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that >>>> I feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very >>>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could >>>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to >>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be >>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near >>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale >>>> in this way is pretty exciting! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Roberts >>>> >>>> The Conversation Collaborative >>>> >>>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com >>>> >>>> (203) 426-1039 >>>> >>>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts >>>> >>>> G+: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <image001.jpg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kári Gunnarsson >>>> [email protected] >>>> (+354) 864 5189 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Eleder_BuM via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [OSList] Lunch time >>> Date: 1 October 2014 15:46:39 BST >>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Eleder_BuM <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Hi friends how are you? >>> >>> Last time I opened space (sep 17th, HerriUni) I got some little learning >>> I´d like to share... >>> >>> - In a one day OS meeting, it helps me a lot as facilitator *to have a >>> good time (around 1 hour would do very well) to enjoy lunch >>> *(+coffee/nap/ride/...?) >>> slowly. >>> - *Best time for it, in my case would be, some time after the beginning >>> of the second meeting. *For example, we had last day meetings scheduled >>> for 11:15; 12:30 and 16:00. We had lscheduled unch time for the OS >>> between >>> 14:00 and 16:00....And I had lunch around 12:50 and was finished around >>> 13:40. Quite good, because,... >>> >>> This can help well because,... >>> >>> - My activity as facilitator is all the time coming before the group´s... >>> - ... so my energy end up also sooner... >>> - ... so my body asks for energy sooner >>> - ...and we can be on the place well present to ring the bells before >>> the main lunch time, facilitate the reports of the second round being >>> typed >>> on the laptops,...and joining some conversation too! >>> - enjoying a slow lunch helps always so much! >>> >>> Small thing most of you already know well, I suppose. >>> >>> I share it because I feel that sometimes, in my overwhelming activity, I >>> missed this point and couldn´t, because of it, be so present,... >>> >>> Any comments? >>> >>> Go Poland! Maybe we meet there next year! >>> >>> Enjoy life! >>> >>> *@Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> * >>> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com >>> www.burumapak.blogspot.com (Basque) >>> http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es (Spanish) >>> www.bilbohiria.com/irratsaioak/berbaz (Basque radio interviews) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Second Life >>> Date: 1 October 2014 21:25:26 BST >>> To: Kári Gunnarsson <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Harold Shinsato <[email protected]>, World wide Open Space >>> Technology email list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Kári, >>> >>> The Radical Inclusion folks worked on developing an Open Space in Second >>> Life back in 2009, and used Open Space in Second Life as part of a 150 >>> person online event June 5, 2010. Holger Nauheimer, Julianne Neumann, >>> and others. >>> >>> I'm looking through my old emails to look for tracks and trails. I didn't >>> participate in their online unconference, only a small part of which was >>> open space, and their NING site seems to have been decommissioned. The few >>> meetings we held back in 2009, I do remember that the prospect of Open >>> Space in Second Life looked like it would be largely consumed with training >>> the participants in the use of Second Life. At least my own enthusiasm >>> fizzled. There is a website for the exploratory meetings - >>> http://osinsl.pbworks.com - but you have to request access and it doesn't >>> have that much content. >>> >>> I think there's a lot of promise in what Ben Roberts is talking about with >>> Maestro Conference. They've been working on their Social Webinar for years >>> now and it's great it's finally working. >>> >>> I'm also thinking the MIT open source project mentioned a few weeks ago on >>> the OSList has great potential for a low cost (or free if you can get the >>> hosting and setup) online open space with video. >>> https://unhangout.media.mit.edu/how-to-unhangout/. >>> >>> A simple phone interface, or a familiar (like Google Hangout) platform >>> would be much better than Second Life. Maybe in the future the training >>> overhead won't be needed for a virtual world - thus the great value of a >>> phone interface like Maestro. Everyone knows the phone. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Harold >>> >>> On 10/1/14 2:13 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote: >>>> Has some one here done an Open Space in "Second Life", the online and free >>>> virtual world from the SF based Linden Lab? >>>> >>>> On 30 September 2014 21:59, Ben Roberts via OSList >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> As some of you know, I’ve been at this for a couple of years now. Today, >>>> working on behalf of the Charter for Compassion International, I was >>>> finally able to host a MaestroConference-based call that I felt truly >>>> lived up to the potential for “Open Space” in virtual form (in quotes >>>> since I know some of you purists might dispute that this really was OST!). >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course, it wasn’t like being together in person for a day or two. >>>> Indeed, there was only one round of live small group conversation. But the >>>> combination of an online space that was opened on 9/22 using the “hackpad” >>>> platform and a 90 minute call eight days later using MaestroConference’s >>>> newest “social webinar” beta really worked. Here are some highlights of >>>> the process (you can also view notes and more here on hackpad): >>>> >>>> · We had 43 participants on the call for at least some of the 90 >>>> minutes, mostly from the US, but also including several from overseas. >>>> >>>> · Six topics were initiated by participants >>>> >>>> · In addition to the topic breakouts, there was a “meet and greet” >>>> session for just hanging out and connecting. This also served as a place >>>> to welcome late-comers to the call. As a result, the latter were easily >>>> integrated and able to join the conversations of their choosing >>>> >>>> · The topic conversations lasted a little more than 40 minutes >>>> >>>> · We ended with a full group “popcorn-style” harvest and some >>>> announcements >>>> >>>> · A number of participants attended a debrief after the official >>>> end of the call >>>> >>>> · A few participants also stayed on the line “overtime” to >>>> continue their topic conversations >>>> >>>> >>>> MC’s new “social webinar” worked beautifully, allowing participants to do >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> · Exercise the law of two feet (really!) >>>> >>>> · See who was in their breakouts (including a thumbnail and >>>> contact info, if provided) >>>> >>>> · See who was talking or had their “hands” up >>>> >>>> >>>> Using “hackpad,” we were able to do the following: >>>> >>>> · Open the marketplace in advance, in order to both save time on >>>> the call and allow for some online discussion to get going. Five out of >>>> the six topics were initiated in advance. >>>> >>>> · Provide an index of topics and the “room numbers” for each (so >>>> that participants could move themselves to the right room) >>>> >>>> · Take collaborative notes during breakouts, with a separate pad >>>> for each one (note that “social webinar” now also provides shared document >>>> functionality for each breakout room, if desired) >>>> >>>> · Continue sharing notes and reflections once the call had ended >>>> (this is still ongoing) >>>> >>>> · Make detailed introductions before, during and after the call >>>> >>>> · Compile a shared listing of resources >>>> >>>> · Make announcements and requests >>>> >>>> >>>> It was also possible for participants to engage fully via their phones >>>> only (including moving between sessions) without using either hackpad or >>>> “social webinar.” This was important, as not everyone was able to be at a >>>> computer, and some who were at one had trouble using the online tools. >>>> >>>> >>>> Not everything was perfect, of course, and there were some lessons >>>> learned. The biggest challenge was that, despite many emails and online >>>> explanations in advance, some people were confused by the three ways to >>>> engage (phone, hackpad and social webinar) or had trouble accessing one or >>>> more of these elements. The vast majority, however, were either able to >>>> use these tools or to have a valuable and satisfying conversation without >>>> them. >>>> >>>> >>>> I expect that there will be future iterations planned on behalf of the >>>> Charter for Compassion, and I will promote them to this listserv now that >>>> I feel comfortable handling larger groups! MaestroConference is also very >>>> interested in promoting a series of large group “conversations that could >>>> change the world.” Perhaps there are some folks here who might want to >>>> collaborate with me in convening one? They plan for their platform to be >>>> able to manage calls in this way with over a thousand people in the near >>>> future. The thought of being able to regularly engage people at that scale >>>> in this way is pretty exciting! >>>> >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> Ben >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Roberts >>>> >>>> The Conversation Collaborative >>>> >>>> www. ConversationCollaborative.com >>>> >>>> (203) 426-1039 >>>> >>>> Skype: benjamin_j_roberts >>>> >>>> G+: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kári Gunnarsson >>>> [email protected] >>>> (+354) 864 5189 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Harold Shinsato >>> [email protected] >>> http://shinsato.com >>> twitter: @hajush >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >
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