> I would be happy to know, how are your efforts financed, since I have no > possibility to do it on a charity base.
That is a good question, György, The small 3 hours workshops in Academy of Public Service we do on our basic educatonal payment in Russia - like $2 per hour. We could ...not do it, but the audience there is very regular - nearly all 2 months, so we do agree to do this, and you saw the great spectrum of administration service officers we can meet there (and hope to promote the methods...). So it is our field for trying different audience and our methods. Even 3 hours OS gives quite different and interesting results comparing with the training methods we tried last 5 years. the Future Search Conferences - the first one - we were ALL - sponsors, organizers and the most interested in the Institute for Leadership for the XXI century in Siberia - but we managed to pursuade the Academy of Public Service, so they provide us the room and the basic educatonal payment....It was March 2000 then there was FSC "Women-leaders of Siberia" - we got grant for this ourselves - it was the joint project with US organization "Connective Leadership" so we got payed for this. it was November 2000. then we proposed to do FSC for Medical clinic/hospital # 168 in Novosibirsk in January 2001 as the director of it was going to join our Rotary Club and it was interesting for me to try different auditorium and we didn't get payed for it at all until now as people there recieve less then $30, some $50-60/month (and the situation for clinics this year is even worther - not our fault!), but we got the nice experience and good report to show, that we did it and it worked - people did 6 projects, and understood that only they themselves could do something, but as the clinic is private, they were quicked out of the government insurence sphare - one of the best ones! - it is one of the Russian paradoxes!) the FSCs for two cities (the FIRST time we were called: if we can do something with different stake holders) had some workshop budgets, so we were payed on average level of consulting service in Russia, like $100 per day. It is probably funny for you, but this is good for us. We do recieve now and then some proposals on this basic consulting payment. We always have something like 2-3 asking a month which work sometimes....usually not. and every time you don't know which one will work...As my younger 19 year old son says - if at least it would be garanted every month, we could survive... so not yet now. We do have all US prices for everything but house service and no much private houses yet, but all the other - the same. so we need to learn how to go out of this.... but we are moving with the method! My first 3-hours OS I made for Novosibirsk Regional Administration, about which I consulted a lot with Harrison Owen - was for free. They have no budget for this, but were eager to provide a conference. Well this was a chance to try!. and I could NOT DO IT, but my STORIES and PICTURES about this first OS meeting on civic initiatives gave me the WORK, I got some payment for - from the Program "Open World", sponsored by US Library of Congress and America Ambassy with Open Society institute (Soros Foundation) as the organizer of "A Year after Meeting". They DID NOT know what to do with this not motivated people... So they asked me after my stories, if it is a good method for such a meeting. It was not good for OS, but it was good for such kind of a meeting. So now I got some hellos from a member of US Library of Congress, who did not believe it could work in Russia, so she watched us (me) working and it was the most productive one workshop in the series of such meetings in Urals and Tomsk and other places, where there were a traditional "round tables"....- they said. so it is more optimism then payment yet, but we are looking forward and promote the methods....and it gives us some money to survive also, not much yet.... so I don't know if it will give you any idea. but I think I'm doing my way of learning together with people. and also it gave me such nice support of OSLIST people - when they heard what I'm trying to do, they helped me to visit Advanced OS training with Birgitt Williams in San Fransisco in April-May 2001, to invite her to Novosibirsk in June, where we did organize training for 16, though a week before there were no visas and tickets...., to participate in the International Association of Facilitators Conference in Minneapolis in May where I met Yellow Knife (Canada) facilitators who were looking for Russian facilitator and OS - facilitator for Norilsk women conference in July - and we DID it! and OSonOS in Vancouver - this is just fantastic!!!! THANK YOU, MY DEAR OS-COMMUNITY. I THINK this is THE WAY FOR Learning how to do a BETTER WORLD. WE NEED NOW TO LEARN MORE about EASTERN THINKING and EASTERN WORLD - and move forward. how do you think? best wishes to you and ALL my OS -friends and good luck! elena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beck György" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: 550 plus! > Dear Elena, > > I am keeping my eyes jealously on your activity from Hungary! > > Yes, I do think, that OS is the appropriate tool to democratize the ex > socialist societies and experience that the old power based ruling models > are survivig, first of all in the political life. All the target groups, you > have mentioned in your correspondence (tax officers, local governments, > etc.) are very much working on political logics, ten involvement, > empowerment, cooperation. > > I would be happy to know, how are your efforts financed, since I have no > possibility to do it on a charity base. > > On the other hand it is not only a matter of funding - I have offered on OS > free quarterly for those who can not afford to pay for it. There is not as > many enquiries, as I would have expected. > > I think our discussions might be interesting for the OS public, that's why I > wrote here and not off the list. > > Zdrasztvuj > > Gyuri > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
