On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:

Kaliay -- seems to me you really have two questions here, and I am not sure which one your really want an answer to (or both?). Question 1 -- OS in a non-English environment? Question 2 -- OS in an environment where multiple
languages are spoken?

Nope actually I am not asking Question 1 at all. I will try to reword it.

What do to support Open Space lead in English and the sessions will be largely spoken english when many of the people participating don't have english as their primary (first) language.



The people I am working with have said some what in jest but none-the- less say. They think the event for all of English speaking folks should happen in Japanese to prove how it 'doesn't work' if you are not a good speaker of what ever language it is happening in.


Things get a little more complicated when you come to the various issue group in multiple languages. But that seems towork too, very much in the spirit of a good international bar. If you want to talk to somebody and don't share a common language, everybody else at the bar will pitch in. Language buddies can also be helpful. And I am sure that our international cast of characters will have lots of helpful suggestions.

This is all great advice and it would be great to hear from others about specific guidelines or suggestions they put forward for people navigating a not everyone is fully comfortable in the language things are happening in AND multi-lingual. Along with suggestions for facilitators working in such an environment.

I do appreciate fully the 'intuition' and ability for people to communicate AND I am bringing Open Space into environments where there is a normative requirement for high understanding of what is being discussed about technical standards in International Telecommunications.

Smiles
=Kaliya



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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kaliya
Hamlin
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mutli-LIngual and non-primary Language Open space

Hi Open Space LIst,

I finally have joined. At Nexus for change many open space practitioners
were talking about how wonderfully supportive this list was of their
practice and a real community.

Part of the reason I joined is that I have a question that was not
answerable easily by searching the web. I would like to know about
expereinces and learning about open space where multiple Languages are used and perhaps more importantly where many of the participants don't have the primary language the Open Space is being run in don't have it as their first
language.

I have brought Open Space into the stodgy standards world of the
International Telecommunications Union's Focus Group on Identity Management. Although we have used it at one of the meetings there are those who remain unconvinced of its potential and who are insisting that it "doesn't work"
for non-english as a first language speakers.  They are apparently
suggesting that when we have our meeting in Japan that the Open Space be run in Japaness to prove to me that it doesn't work for these people. (Like sitting in a room for 8 hours a day reviewing english written Microsoft Word documents projected on the front wall 'works' to deal successfully with the complex world of telecommunications standards and regulations world wide.)

What I would like to know from people is how do you create a supportive space for groups where many of the participants don't have english as a
primary language?

What are the guildelines/suggestions to put forward to both the first
language speakers?
What are the guidlelines/suggesitons put forward to the as a second (or
third..) language participatnts.

Any other advise you have about this would be welcome.

Regards,
 =Kaliay

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