Nice seems really nice to me! Thank you! Suzanne
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > No problem Dan. I can’t tell you why other people mention them, but my > reason is a simple one. It’s a nice thing to do. It all goes with the > Invitation... **** > > ** ** > > So – were I to invite you to my birthday party I could simply say “Come > for my B’day 12/2/13 at noon, Inn at Glen Echo.” That has all the essential > information, but it is a little bit abrupt. It might be nice to give some > hint about what could happen – just to peak your interest and make you feel > more at comfortable. Maybe something about fabulous guests, surprising > happenings, total freedom to enjoy...to say nothing of Martinis!**** > > ** ** > > So with the 5 Principles and the Law. They were in fact generated by > simple observation. Over the years, and indeed from the beginning, they > always seemed to happen. Even when they weren’t expected. And I am totally > convinced that they would still show up if never mentioned. They don’t > created the openness of the space – they simply acknowledge it. So why even > mention them? It’s a nice thing to do. And once mentioned people get rather > attached to them. I’ve tried to get away with silence, and have been pulled > up short every time...**** > > ** ** > > So what to do? Just be nice J**** > > ** ** > > Harrison **** > > ** ** > > Harrison Owen**** > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > USA**** > > ** ** > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > ** ** > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > ** ** > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 1:31 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] (was) Open Space in schools - now: OST > boundaries? constraints?**** > > ** ** > > I request help and guidance. Will you help me understand the rule of the > Open Space meeting format? > > If the 1 law & the 4/5 principles are natural and self-evident, I am > confused about the need to mention them whatsoever. > > If the 1 law and the 4/5 principles are not natural and not self-evident, > I am confused about how mentioning them is optional. > > The 1 "law" (quotes) and "4/5 principles" (quotes again) are either > self-evident, or they are not. I wonder which is the reality. > > See also: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law > http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights > > > > > **** > > On 9/30/13 8:05 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:**** > > Dan – I have to agree with Lisa. As said multiple times before, the 5 > principles and the Law are descriptive and not prescriptive. Or at least > that is the way they popped into my head: simple observations of what was > transpiring, as opposed to directions concerning what should be taking > place. I have always said “Principles” and “Law” with a smile, because if > you really think about it, they are neither (principle or law). More like, > “funny things that happen on the way to the future.” There is an essential > humor, sense of fun in Open Space – and if we ever lose it, we begin to > take things much too seriously L I call it High Play.**** > > **** > > Harrison **** > > **** > > Harrison Owen**** > > 7808 River Falls Dr.**** > > Potomac, MD 20854**** > > USA**** > > **** > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)**** > > Camden, Maine 04843**** > > **** > > Phone 301-365-2093**** > > (summer) 207-763-3261**** > > **** > > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> **** > > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)**** > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > OSLIST Go to: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Lisa Heft > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 3:22 AM > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Subject:* [OSList] (was) Open Space in schools - now: OST boundaries? > constraints?**** > > **** > > Dan - I have taken the liberty of adjusting the title of this topic to > more closely fit the changed content.**** > > **** > > And: I look forward to hearing how others respond…**** > > **** > > 1/ I see the Law and Principles and *invitations* not as constraints.**** > > **** > > 2/ And not 'required' as in - some of us do not use the 5th Principle at > all. However, the saying, inviting and simple explanation of these > invitations help to create the structure (as there is a structure, just not > the structure that a lot of people have experienced in meetings) / to > create the container. What I mean by that is that I have observed that to > not offer the invitation of the principles and law (even in a group of > people who completely know and do Open Space) is not inviting presence and > possibility in the same way. So different dynamics then occur.**** > > **** > > And in saying that offering these invitations and explaining this process > help to create the container, I mean a living, breathing, nutrient-rich > container, perhaps similar to some containers like cellular walls, a bird's > nest, a lake, a poem, or a wisp of vapor… which have some form within which > there is flow. **** > > **** > > 3/ I notice that some super-good OST facilitators can use more words to > explain things, and some use less. And the experience can be amazing. In my > observation, it is not the amount of words, it is the complete true > understanding of inviting Opening Circle and agenda co-creation (which > include a brief explanation of principles and law and process), and getting > / staying out of the way so the participants can do their own work, see > their own patterns, feel their own co-leadership, and so on. **** > > **** > > What do others think?**** > > > Lisa**** > > **** > > On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Mezick <[email protected]> wrote:*** > * > > > > > **** > > Lisa says: > "...**** > > The other thing is that for any kind of facilitation, I would not name > boundaries or constraints. It sets peoples' minds in the framework of > boundaries and constraints - rather than opportunities and possibilities.* > *** > > Like 'think outside the box' - you are still thinking…of the box! when / > because someone says that. " > > Dan says: > I notice that: > 1/ the 1 Law and 5 Principles of OST are constraints-in-fact. Are they > not? > 2/ we are required to describe these as OST Facilitators; at least, > according to the OST Guide. Right? > 3/ the general idea for the Facilitator is, "the less said the better". > No? > > I think OST is a most wonderful game. > http://newtechusa.net/agile/how-games-deliver-happiness-learning/ > > Dan**** > > **** > > > > > **** > > _______________________________________________**** > > OSList mailing list**** > > To post send emails to [email protected]**** > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]**** > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:**** > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org**** > > ** ** > > -- > > **** > > Daniel Mezick, President**** > > New Technology Solutions Inc.**** > > (203) 915 7248 (cell)**** > > Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. 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