Dear John,
you asked:
"...are OS List discussions available at a public URL somewhere?"
At the bottom of each email I get from OSLIST it says:
OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
of OSLIST Go to:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
and, even more directly to the archives itself
http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/
Seems to be public enough which at one time in the past led to deep
discussion on ownership of these gems!
Here is the very first message back from December 13, 1996 that Murli
sent to the original list of 57 os-nicks
Friends, OpenSpacers, and worldfolk,
prompted by Peggy’s posting I’ve set up a discussion list for all who
have email. Any message posted to this list will automatically be
distributed to anyone subscribed to this list. This way we can have an
unstructured discussion going in open cyberspace...
Peace
murli
Have a great day
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
PS: In my experience harvesting, documenting, evaluating, writing books
about,...etc.... are close to nothing compared with how I impacted
myself with open space events. So here is my suggestion: Go out and
convene an os-event, it will make your day!
On 11.08.2014 09:10, John Baxter wrote:
Yes I think wordclouds are probably about the best you can get without
the input of human minds and fingers... I'd be very eager to know of
anything automated that could do a better job!
One option to ease the burden is a shared online editable document
(Google Docs or hackpad) and find a few contributors to at least share
the effort, with the added benefit of multiple perspectives (and methods
of recording).
This could be built in as part of the structure of conversation, much as
we might have a closing circle at an Open Space gathering... with
everybody invited to draw out the lessons or points that they thing most
worth sharing.
Ideally this practice could form part of the culture of conversation—
people will contribute more readily if they know it is coming, and have
personal experience of seeing the value of it.
This 'summing up' is one element of face-to-face that seems almost
completely absent online...
Another thing to keep in mind is referring back to source... are OS List
discussions available at a public URL somewhere? Linking back increases
the versatility of a harvest, and decreases the pressure to capture it
all, giving people flexibility to paraphrase (synthesise).
A few cents there for the circle...
*/John Baxter/*
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On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chris -- Definitely still there! And very current I think. So folks
have a read... Harvests of days gone by and still useful...____
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<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
*Chris Corrigan
*Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 4:01 PM
*To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] What would a harvest from a long OSList
discussion look like?____
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You can still find that incredible document hosted at Micheal’s
site:____
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On Aug 8, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
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Lucas – Don’t know where this fits, but several years ago Michael
Herman and Chris Corrigan put together what they called a Non-User’s
Guide which is essentially an annotated collection of a particularly
rich set of discussions here on OSLIST. I haven’t checked, but I
think it is still available onwww.openspaceworld.org
<http://www.openspaceworld.org/>May turn out that human
minds/fingers are still an essential part of the process no matter
the technology. My thought would be Graduate Students. Good labor at
a reasonable price with a possible dissertation or two.____
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*From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]]*On
Behalf Of*Lucas Cioffi
*Sent:*Friday, August 08, 2014 2:52 PM
*To:*World wide Open Space Technology email list
*Subject:*Re: [OSList] What would a harvest from a long OSList
discussion look like?____
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Hi All,____
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Someone reached out and suggested I try a word cloud of the
conversation. I took a few minutes to copy the 50 emails from the
conversation entitled "Management and Organization" which has been
running for the past month. I pasted it below, and if the word cloud
doesn't come through as an attachment, you can also see it online
here.____
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Word clouds are helpful, but I'm still left wanting more. I can't
put my finger on it.____
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I'm thinking that there must be some very creative harvesting
methods used by facilitators in this group, using graphic
facilitation and other methods.* Are your approaches to in-person
harvesting applicable to harvesting one of our 50-email
discussions?*____
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I'm listening to see if I can create a software for harvesting &
summarizing email threads to unlock some of the knowledge buried in
the OSList archives and breath new life into some of our dormant yet
valuable discussion threads from the past.____
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Lucas Cioffi
Co-Founder, Bark!Best
Charlottesville, VA
917-528-1831 <tel:917-528-1831>____
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On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Lucas Cioffi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____
Hi All,____
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So this week many of us are watching a lively discussion thread grow
and grow and grow. It's awesome that it has received nearly 50
email replies already from people all over the world, however 95% of
the people on the list aren't active in it yet, and of course that's
OK.____
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For me and probably others, digging into such a large conversation
becomes a bit intimidating when the conversation is so large. ____
*Question: So, what would a harvest from such a long OSList email
discussion look like if it was to be useful to you personally?*____
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I'm asking the question above for two reasons:____
* For me: Aside from being a longtime OS enthusiast, I'm building
a tool for large online conversations and looking for ideas
about how to create meaningful harvests from them.____
* For all of us: Unrelated to my tool, maybe if there was an easy
way to harvest/summarize these long and lively conversations on
OSList, then it could give access to the conversation to those
who do not have the time or courage to dive in directly.____
* New voices: The younger generations spend less time on email, so
they largely miss out on the great knowledge that's shared on a
list like this. So harvests might be one way to bring new
voices to our conversations on OSList.____
To get the most value out of a conversation, someone certainly has
to ride along and read most of it. But the problem is that when
someone chooses to read one conversation in-depth, they are choosing
to not read another great conversation in-depth. So I'm hoping that
a harvest can help people when they decide which conversations they
want to invest their time in.____
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I look forward to hearing any suggestions!____
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Lucas Cioffi____
Co-Founder, Bark!Best____
Charlottesville, VA____
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