Michael thank you for pulling out that first OSList email. Wow, how we've grown! Look at these stats:

1996
    - 57 people on OSList

2014
    - 787 people on OSList
- 2017 people on Facebook Open Space Technology group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/7189220743 - 1642 people on LinkedIn Open Space Technology group - https://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=81286 - 801 people on Open Space World Ning community - http://openspaceworld.ning.com/ - 49 people in the "Open Space" Google Plus Circle - https://plus.google.com/stream/circles/p70fe5c7a8a52f291

(Please, if anyone knows of any other public Open Space forums, please let me know!)

Although in many ways the alternate technologies used outside the OSList are superior to the OSList, and mostly the numbers signifantly more, the depth of conversations on the OSList still remain superior.

How could appropriate technology deepen the engagement? John, I'm very grateful that you're thinking and working on this. The self-organizing system of the universe I'm sure will find a way, no matter what we do. Thank you for starting a thread to think about this.

Individual minds and hearts definitely do the best harvesting, but I see no reason that technology can't help support the process with visualizations, voting, tagging, and other possible wisdom of the crowd processes. It would also be wonderful if we could do more small group work on the OSList, like in an Open Space, where only selections of smaller conversations can get pushed out to the rest of us.

A vision: in the (near) future, the OSList evolves into a technology that supports this without losing the simplicity of simple email engagement (for those who want it), and at the same time increasing our current depth, passion, relationships, engagement, and yes, love. Certainly not diminishing it, which unfortunately is what I see (at least right now) on facebook etc.

    Cheers,
    Harold

On 8/11/14 4:55 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
Dear John,

you asked:

"...are OS List discussions available at a public URL somewhere?"

At the bottom of each email I get from OSLIST it says:

OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org

and, even more directly to the archives itself

http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/

Seems to be public enough which at one time in the past led to deep discussion on ownership of these gems!

Here is the very first message back from December 13, 1996 that Murli sent to the original list of 57 os-nicks

Friends, OpenSpacers, and worldfolk,
prompted by Peggy’s posting I’ve set up a discussion list for all who have email. Any message posted to this list will automatically be distributed to anyone subscribed to this list. This way we can have an unstructured discussion going in open cyberspace...
Peace
murli

Have a great day
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

PS: In my experience harvesting, documenting, evaluating, writing books about,...etc.... are close to nothing compared with how I impacted myself with open space events. So here is my suggestion: Go out and convene an os-event, it will make your day!

On 11.08.2014 09:10, John Baxter wrote:
Yes I think wordclouds are probably about the best you can get without
the input of human minds and fingers...  I'd be very eager to know of
anything automated that could do a better job!

One option to ease the burden is a shared online editable document
(Google Docs or hackpad) and find a few contributors to at least share
the effort, with the added benefit of multiple perspectives (and methods
of recording).

This could be built in as part of the structure of conversation, much as
we might have a closing circle at an Open Space gathering... with
everybody invited to draw out the lessons or points that they thing most
worth sharing.

Ideally this practice could form part of the culture of conversation—
people will contribute more readily if they know it is coming, and have
personal experience of seeing the value of it.
This 'summing up' is one element of face-to-face that seems almost
completely absent online...

Another thing to keep in mind is referring back to source... are OS List
discussions available at a public URL somewhere?  Linking back increases
the versatility of a harvest, and decreases the pressure to capture it
all, giving people flexibility to paraphrase (synthesise).

A few cents there for the circle...



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On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Chris -- Definitely still there! And very current I think. So folks
    have a read... Harvests of days gone by and still useful...____

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    301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>____

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    *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
    *Chris Corrigan
    *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 4:01 PM


    *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
    *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What would a harvest from a long OSList
    discussion look like?____

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    You can still find that incredible document hosted at Micheal’s
    site:____

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http://www.michaelherman.com/publications/ost_nonguide.pdf____

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    Chris____

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    On Aug 8, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____



    ____

    Lucas – Don’t know where this fits, but several years ago Michael
    Herman and Chris Corrigan put together what they called a Non-User’s
    Guide which is essentially an annotated collection of a particularly
    rich set of discussions here on OSLIST. I haven’t checked, but I
    think it is still available onwww.openspaceworld.org
    <http://www.openspaceworld.org/>May turn out that human
    minds/fingers are still an essential part of the process no matter
    the technology. My thought would be Graduate Students. Good labor at
    a reasonable price with a possible dissertation or two.____

    ____

    Harrison____

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    Winter Address____

    7808 River Falls Drive____

    Potomac, MD 20854____

    301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>____

    ____

    Summer Address____

    189 Beaucaire Ave.____

    Camden, ME 04843____

    207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>____

    ____

    Websites____

    www.openspaceworld.com____

    www.ho-image.com____

    OSLISTTo subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
    archives of OSLIST Go
to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org____

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    *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]]*On
    Behalf Of*Lucas Cioffi
    *Sent:*Friday, August 08, 2014 2:52 PM
    *To:*World wide Open Space Technology email list
    *Subject:*Re: [OSList] What would a harvest from a long OSList
    discussion look like?____

    ____

    Hi All,____

    ____

    Someone reached out and suggested I try a word cloud of the
    conversation.  I took a few minutes to copy the 50 emails from the
    conversation entitled "Management and Organization" which has been
    running for the past month. I pasted it below, and if the word cloud
    doesn't come through as an attachment, you can also see it online
    here.____

    ____

    Word clouds are helpful, but I'm still left wanting more.  I can't
    put my finger on it.____

    ____

    I'm thinking that there must be some very creative harvesting
    methods used by facilitators in this group, using graphic
    facilitation and other methods.* Are your approaches to in-person
    harvesting applicable to harvesting one of our 50-email
    discussions?*____

    ____

    I'm listening to see if I can create a software for harvesting &
    summarizing email threads to unlock some of the knowledge buried in
    the OSList archives and breath new life into some of our dormant yet
    valuable discussion threads from the past.____

    ____

    Lucas Cioffi
    Co-Founder, Bark!Best
    Charlottesville, VA
    917-528-1831 <tel:917-528-1831>____

    ____

    ____

    ____

    <image002.jpg>____

    ____

    On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Lucas Cioffi <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

    Hi All,____

    ____

    So this week many of us are watching a lively discussion thread grow
    and grow and grow.  It's awesome that it has received nearly 50
    email replies already from people all over the world, however 95% of
    the people on the list aren't active in it yet, and of course that's
    OK.____

    ____

    For me and probably others, digging into such a large conversation
    becomes a bit intimidating when the conversation is so large. ____

    *Question: So, what would a harvest from such a long OSList email
    discussion look like if it was to be useful to you personally?*____

    ____

    I'm asking the question above for two reasons:____

      * For me: Aside from being a longtime OS enthusiast, I'm building
        a tool for large online conversations and looking for ideas
        about how to create meaningful harvests from them.____
      * For all of us: Unrelated to my tool, maybe if there was an easy
        way to harvest/summarize these long and lively conversations on
        OSList, then it could give access to the conversation to those
        who do not have the time or courage to dive in directly.____
      * New voices: The younger generations spend less time on email, so
        they largely miss out on the great knowledge that's shared on a
        list like this.  So harvests might be one way to bring new
        voices to our conversations on OSList.____

    To get the most value out of a conversation, someone certainly has
    to ride along and read most of it.  But the problem is that when
    someone chooses to read one conversation in-depth, they are choosing
    to not read another great conversation in-depth.  So I'm hoping that
    a harvest can help people when they decide which conversations they
    want to invest their time in.____

    ____

    I look forward to hearing any suggestions!____

    --____

    Lucas Cioffi____

    Co-Founder, Bark!Best____

    Charlottesville, VA____

    917-528-1831 <tel:917-528-1831>____

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