Elwin raised a great point about "listening." I find it is very important
that everybody hear all the issues. If I think somebody spoke too softly, I
ask for a repeat. If there are conversations breaking out, I ask for
respectful listening. If I see groups gathered at the wall, I ask that they
find a seat (even if they aren't making any noise)... 'cause they probably
aren't listening. When people are listening duplicate issues just about
disappear in my experience. Why propose an issue then it's already on the
wall? Similar issues for sure, and the folks will easily and quickly sort
out how they wish to proceed (hand in hand or one at a time).

But one thing I absolutely won't ever do is (as facilitator) sort/group the
issues. It takes too much time, it is boring, and most of all I am totally
ignorant of the nuances of their issues, which means that the best I would
ever be able to do it to make a heavy handed mess. Terrible. It's demeaning,
and non productive. Don't do it.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 12:25 PM
To: John Watkins; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

Bang on accurate John!

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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:54 AM, John Watkins via OSList
<[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of
purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are
what help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the
necessary diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in order
to be able to address complex problems effectively.  Is that accurate?
> 
> John
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList wrote:
>> 
>> You can get a lot of work done with two or three people diving into a
topic together even while there are three or four similar topics being
addressed. 
>> 
>> Dealing with complex issues requires taking an oblique view of a 
>> problem and coming at it from different angles. It is really good 
>> strategy to do this. 60 topics for 70 people could be excellent
>> 
>> What matters is your strategic architecture for following up. What is the
purpose of these micro conversations and what will you do tho them. Perhaps
having THAT clarity helps people relax with the volume of topics. 
>> 
>> Chris
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>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:51 PM, NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a 
>>> really interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate 
>>> for your thoughts In a couple of recent events - with the "issues 
>>> and opportunities" in the title and the invitation to raise any 
>>> issues or topics the participants feel strongly about - I have found 
>>> myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
>>> to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
>>> With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above 
>>> the 60 odd issues....20 plus breakout groups per session....?
>>> 
>>> I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 
>>> 'new' groups and a day what have others done?
>>> My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ 
>>> groups per session the fragmented nature would mean limited results....
>>> 
>>> I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
>>> I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love 
>>> about it) but it's hard
>>> 
>>> And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?
>>> 
>>> Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia
>>> 
>>> Nigel
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>>> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>> Behalf Of Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
>>> To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...
>>> 
>>> Dear Susan,
>>> 
>>> yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.
>>> 
>>> Jeffs response on "combining or abandoning" topics got me to reflect 
>>> on the word "topic". From work wayback with structured brainstorming 
>>> I remember a group of 25 "generating" between 30 to 50 topics.
>>> 
>>> With os crowds and my use of the word "issue" (with talking a bit 
>>> about what is meant with "issue" in contrast to "topic or idea or 
>>> something I am interested in", mentioning passion, urgency etc.) I 
>>> find that there was decreasing tendency of combining or abolishing. 
>>> Actually, when someone suggested to combine issues I would suggest 
>>> in a very low-key way that this was not illegal and add something 
>>> like: What might look and sound very similar often turns out to be
different in an important way.
>>> 
>>> As a participant I have become    quite uncomfortable, irritated or even

>>> foaming when I had a facilitator go to the Bulleting Board and "cluster"

>>> stuff... turning into a space invador. My reaction, I suppose, got 
>>> me to be cautious with "combining".
>>> 
>>> How is your take on the impact of the "words" we use?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers and good luck with a very short event!
>>> 
>>> mmp
>>> 
>>>> On 26.01.2015 22:59, Susan Partnow via OSList wrote:
>>>> Hello dear OSers... I am planning a very short OS here in Seattle 
>>>> at the WOW (Women of Wisdom) conference - Sunday afternoon, Feb 15 
>>>> - and trying to call the rule of thumb for anticipating the likely 
>>>> number of sessions to plan for - We have two brief OS times and expect
~100 participants.
>>>> Any educated guesses as we plan for delineating break out spaces?
Thanks!
>>>> 
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