Recent Changes Camp actually was Open Space, not unconference. We did the first one Portland in 2006, I think, and it ran around to a number of other places for some years. Maybe still is going. Not sure the form anymore, but the first ones were definitely OS.
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Kaliya Hamlin and others can surely chime in. She and friends have worked > hard to persuade folks that OST is a best way to design an Unconference > such as Barcamp or Recent Changes Camp or etc. > > See their work at unconference.net > > Some unconferences use other participatory designs that are not OST and > they do well, or crash and burn, or what have you. > > Ps Dirk - I heard that naming the event Bar was indeed a play on the often > used term Fubar - after the Foo was found inadequate for the restless > masses... > > Onward with thanks > > Jeff > San Francisco > > On Aug 21, 2016 1:26 PM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dick -- I'm sure you are correct. And Wikipedia does tend to be a little >> bit wiki... Howsomever -- by whatever name. However any time somebody >> starts talking about 4 principles and the law of two feet -- sounds a >> little spacey to me. Kinda of like "The Four Principles of Indian >> Spirituality." You can look that up on the Web! But at the end of the day-- >> Who cares? I didn't invent it. They didn't either. It's been around for a >> bit. Somewhat longer than Wiki... or whatever. >> >> ho >> >> Winter Address >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> 301-365-2093 >> >> Summer Address >> 189 Beaucauire Ave >> Camden, ME 04843 >> 207 763-3261 >> >> Websites >> www.openspaceworld.com >> www.ho-image.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Dirk Riehle via OSList >> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [OSList] Foo Bar OST Re: What's the difference between BarCamp >> and OST? >> >> If my memory serves me right (and Wikipedia seems to bear this out), the >> history is the following: >> >> There used to be Foocamp, a conference initiated and led by Tim O'Reilly. >> The Foo in Foocamp supposedly stands for Friends of O'Reilly. O'Reilly is >> quite influential among what you call "the geeks". There is an alternative >> explanation of "foo" in that it refers to, well, "foo", which among geeks >> is a placeholder term for nothing in particular. You use it like "thingy" >> if you dont really have a term at hand. A random variable name that is. >> >> Attendance at Foocamp was invitation-only and so eventually, some people >> frustrated over not having been invited, created Barcamp as a free and open >> alternative to Foocamp. Bar, like foo, is also just an empty placeholder >> for nothing in particular, and in geek lingo, foo and bar always occur >> together, hence foobar (no relationship to fubar as far as I know). >> >> I don't think there is a particular defined structure to barcamps; they >> are much more loosely organized than open-space-organized events. They tend >> to have an agenda wall but none or not much of the ceremony that open space >> provides. So any one event may be quite different from another. Well, >> that's at least how it was when I last attended such events 10 years ago. >> >> Talking semantics then: >> >> 1. Foocamp was a particular conference series. >> >> 2. Barcamp refers to a widely-copied conference format and is a synonym >> for unconference. >> >> 3. Open space technology is a meeting/event facilitation technique. >> >> My understanding is that OST is not a conference format but rather helps >> structure a meeting/event/conference in a particular way. >> >> You can probably tell me whether it is a good idea to embed OST in a >> conference as one track, with other tracks using more traditional formats >> (i.e. planned agendas). I used to structure a conference series (WikiSym, >> now OpenSym, http://opensym.org) using OST, but later general chairs >> didn't do that; they didn't like OST and probably didn't understand it >> either. >> >> Cheers, >> Dirk >> >> >> On 21.08.2016 21:15, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: >> > Eva -- you are, as usual, correct. Bar Camp has been around for some >> years, and it is a copy of OS. I think it had something to do with the >> geeks wanting to maintain something more like control. So they did the same >> thing (mostly), and called it something different. Is this called >> innovation? >> > >> > Harrison >> > >> > Winter Address >> > 7808 River Falls Dr. >> > Potomac, MD 20854 >> > 301-365-2093 >> > >> > Summer Address >> > 189 Beaucauire Ave >> > Camden, ME 04843 >> > 207 763-3261 >> > >> > Websites >> > www.openspaceworld.com >> > www.ho-image.com >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> > Of Eva P Svensson via OSList >> > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 2:01 PM >> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >> > Subject: [OSList] What's the difference between BarCamp and OST? >> > >> > Dear friends, >> > Today I heard a woman talking about setting up a meeting using BarCamp >> as a method. I asked her to explain to me what it was and when she did that >> I had a hard time finding the differences between that and Open Space. One >> thing was that, as she explained it, the time slots were 45 minutes then 15 >> minutes pause then new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise it seemed more or >> less like copy and paste from Open Space. 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