Thanks. John Abbe and I hosted one in Palo Alto. It was Open Space but i heard people also considered it to be an unconference.
To some degree this is all like a game of Telephone in which the message changes with each new person telling it! Jeff On Aug 21, 2016 6:45 PM, "Michael Herman" <[email protected]> wrote: > Recent Changes Camp actually was Open Space, not unconference. We did the > first one Portland in 2006, I think, and it ran around to a number of other > places for some years. Maybe still is going. Not sure the form anymore, > but the first ones were definitely OS. > > > -- > > Michael Herman > Michael Herman Associates > 312-280-7838 (mobile) > > http://MichaelHerman.com > http://OpenSpaceWorld.org > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Kaliya Hamlin and others can surely chime in. She and friends have worked >> hard to persuade folks that OST is a best way to design an Unconference >> such as Barcamp or Recent Changes Camp or etc. >> >> See their work at unconference.net >> >> Some unconferences use other participatory designs that are not OST and >> they do well, or crash and burn, or what have you. >> >> Ps Dirk - I heard that naming the event Bar was indeed a play on the >> often used term Fubar - after the Foo was found inadequate for the restless >> masses... >> >> Onward with thanks >> >> Jeff >> San Francisco >> >> On Aug 21, 2016 1:26 PM, "Harrison Owen via OSList" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dick -- I'm sure you are correct. And Wikipedia does tend to be a little >>> bit wiki... Howsomever -- by whatever name. However any time somebody >>> starts talking about 4 principles and the law of two feet -- sounds a >>> little spacey to me. Kinda of like "The Four Principles of Indian >>> Spirituality." You can look that up on the Web! But at the end of the day-- >>> Who cares? I didn't invent it. They didn't either. It's been around for a >>> bit. Somewhat longer than Wiki... or whatever. >>> >>> ho >>> >>> Winter Address >>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>> 301-365-2093 >>> >>> Summer Address >>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>> Camden, ME 04843 >>> 207 763-3261 >>> >>> Websites >>> www.openspaceworld.com >>> www.ho-image.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Dirk Riehle via OSList >>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 3:39 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [OSList] Foo Bar OST Re: What's the difference between BarCamp >>> and OST? >>> >>> If my memory serves me right (and Wikipedia seems to bear this out), the >>> history is the following: >>> >>> There used to be Foocamp, a conference initiated and led by Tim >>> O'Reilly. The Foo in Foocamp supposedly stands for Friends of O'Reilly. >>> O'Reilly is quite influential among what you call "the geeks". There is an >>> alternative explanation of "foo" in that it refers to, well, "foo", which >>> among geeks is a placeholder term for nothing in particular. You use it >>> like "thingy" if you dont really have a term at hand. A random variable >>> name that is. >>> >>> Attendance at Foocamp was invitation-only and so eventually, some people >>> frustrated over not having been invited, created Barcamp as a free and open >>> alternative to Foocamp. Bar, like foo, is also just an empty placeholder >>> for nothing in particular, and in geek lingo, foo and bar always occur >>> together, hence foobar (no relationship to fubar as far as I know). >>> >>> I don't think there is a particular defined structure to barcamps; they >>> are much more loosely organized than open-space-organized events. They tend >>> to have an agenda wall but none or not much of the ceremony that open space >>> provides. So any one event may be quite different from another. Well, >>> that's at least how it was when I last attended such events 10 years ago. >>> >>> Talking semantics then: >>> >>> 1. Foocamp was a particular conference series. >>> >>> 2. Barcamp refers to a widely-copied conference format and is a synonym >>> for unconference. >>> >>> 3. Open space technology is a meeting/event facilitation technique. >>> >>> My understanding is that OST is not a conference format but rather helps >>> structure a meeting/event/conference in a particular way. >>> >>> You can probably tell me whether it is a good idea to embed OST in a >>> conference as one track, with other tracks using more traditional formats >>> (i.e. planned agendas). I used to structure a conference series (WikiSym, >>> now OpenSym, http://opensym.org) using OST, but later general chairs >>> didn't do that; they didn't like OST and probably didn't understand it >>> either. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Dirk >>> >>> >>> On 21.08.2016 21:15, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: >>> > Eva -- you are, as usual, correct. Bar Camp has been around for some >>> years, and it is a copy of OS. I think it had something to do with the >>> geeks wanting to maintain something more like control. So they did the same >>> thing (mostly), and called it something different. Is this called >>> innovation? >>> > >>> > Harrison >>> > >>> > Winter Address >>> > 7808 River Falls Dr. >>> > Potomac, MD 20854 >>> > 301-365-2093 >>> > >>> > Summer Address >>> > 189 Beaucauire Ave >>> > Camden, ME 04843 >>> > 207 763-3261 >>> > >>> > Websites >>> > www.openspaceworld.com >>> > www.ho-image.com >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> > Of Eva P Svensson via OSList >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 2:01 PM >>> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> > Subject: [OSList] What's the difference between BarCamp and OST? >>> > >>> > Dear friends, >>> > Today I heard a woman talking about setting up a meeting using BarCamp >>> as a method. I asked her to explain to me what it was and when she did that >>> I had a hard time finding the differences between that and Open Space. One >>> thing was that, as she explained it, the time slots were 45 minutes then 15 >>> minutes pause then new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise it seemed more or >>> less like copy and paste from Open Space. 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