Jake,
By definition self organisation occurs despite any efforts to make it happen.  
Self means just that ie. it is about personal commitment to one’s self.  When a 
system self organises those who are viewing it as if through a window wonders 
how?  Then the question is why?  In change again by definition new things are 
operating in the environment we are in.  Maslow would say we revert to the base 
of his needs and then as we mature we reach the ultimate self actualisation.  
So the function of a self organising or self managed group will be compromised 
when someone’s needs are not met.

Normally, from my experience the organisation or management of the group will 
move to and fro through a range of responses that what we might call “living 
cadence”. And if the situation is compromised beyond the group’s ability to 
cope we can say the self organised group has failed.

Having had the privilege of working in a number of self organising groups it is 
as if by magic things get done to standards way in excess of what I had thought 
possible.  Over time groups evolve as they adapt to their environment.  As said 
in the bible there is a time for everything as one waxes one wanes.

Regards
Rob

> On 21 Jun 2019, at 12:04 pm, Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via 
> OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 20.06.19 um 19:31:
>> Hey everyone,
>> Does anyone know of organizations that attempted to implement 
>> self-organization but failed? If so, do you know some of the factors that 
>> contributed to the failure? We hear about the successes, like Semco and AES, 
>> but rarely about the failures. I'd like to understand better what the 
>> pitfalls are and also what the success rate is.
> Hi Jake,
> 
> what do you mean by "implement self-organization"?
> How would one go about doing that?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Juliane.
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