Dear Michael, thank you for your reply and for your good will. I appreciate it a lot. I will definitely look at materials you mentioned and attached. May I call you a little bit later on July? I will go back from my vacation on 22nd so 23rd or 24th would be perfect for me. We are in touch. Thank you and have a great day Michael,
Wojtek pon., 8 lip 2019 o 10:31 Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> napisał(a): > Dear Wojtek, > > just returned from a week with some of our grandchildren and was offline. > > In June, I sent a note to the LIST (see below) with all the details and > links to photos etc. for the event in Würzburg with 2108 participants. > You definintely should acquire the video, it will give you a good > insight re the many details that one can pay attention to. > What will actually happen in the event is a different story. > The event event in Würzburg in southern Germany was not in circus tents, > of course, but in beer tents, rectangular and huge. In fact, so spacious > that a truck laden with icecream creations could drive into one of the > tents one evening before the os-gathering as part of the larger > conference (several thousand participants) and another one with 1000 > percussion instruments for the participants to have monstrous drumming > sessions. > > If you feel like calling me, July 11 or 12 would suit me. > For contact details see my worldmap entry > > https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/worker/michael-m-pannwitz > > Not seeing you in the world map you are invited to include yourself > > https://www.openspaceworldmap.org/inclusion > > cheers > mmp > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: [OSList] number of breakout groups > Datum: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 01:10:14 +0200 > Von: Michael M Pannwitz <[email protected]> > An: Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected]>, > [email protected], Holman, Peggy S. <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > Erich Kolenaty created a photo presentation on the one day OST event in > Würzburg/Germany (2013) that HO mentioned with 2108 participants. > 232 issues were presented and dealt with in 3 phases (starting times at > 10:15, 11:45 and 13:45) which meant 77 breakout spaces. Many of the > breakout spaces were set up by the participants... look here > > https://www.transformation.at/documents/OS_Wuerzburg_minimized.pdf > > There is also a 78 minute film on this event, including the English and > German version of the introduction by HO and mmp, interviews with > participants, facilitators and sponsor, available here > > > https://www.steinhardt-verlag-shop.de/epages/61415289.sf/de_DE/?ObjectID=2386608 > > If Peggys rule of thumb would have been applied (20% of the people post > issues in large groups) there should have been 421 issues. At the > Würzburg event nobody imagined 232 issues. But 232 issues were easily > dealt with by the 2108... the only explanation I have for that is the > magic of the force of selforganisation.l > > The rule of thumb mentioned in the "mini spec" that Robin Muretisch > posted "... 3 out of 10 participants will post a session" would have > meant 632 issues in Würzburg. > > So much to the rules of thumb. > > My experience is that the number of issues posted is not only a factor > of the number of folks attending but also has to do with the length of > the event. > With smaller groups the number of issues can be the same as the number > of participants and even more if it is a "regular" 2,5 day OST event > where additional issues are posted during the event. > Another factor is that participants vary greatly in the number of issues > each participant offers. In some cases there will be participants that > offer 2 to 10 issues and others dont offer any. > > The ressource that Lori Palano remembered to have seen was a graph with > two parameters (number of participants and number of issues) that was > prepared by someone in the team that set up the event with 2108 > participants. > Basically, it showed a curve that rose steeply and then tapered off to > almost a straight line... meaning that in general the number of issues > rose inversely to the number of participants, or, the larger the group > the smaller the number of issues per participant. > > I am sure someone among us has that graph buried in a file. > > I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of > participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a > more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at an > OST event. > > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > > Am 05.06.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList: > > And then there was the time when Michael Pannwitz and I had 2108 > > participants… And I think we ended up with 175 Groups. We grossly > > under-estimated (75) – but fortunately you can add groups as many as > > you need. The People are always right, and they will claim the space > > they need. Facilitators are only guessing – and then just get out of the > > way J > > > > Harrison > > > > *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf > > Of *Lori Palano via OSList > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:51 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Cc:* Lori Palano > > *Subject:* [OSList] number of breakout groups > > > > Hello all > > > > A number of years ago I seem to remember a resource shared on this list > > that calculated an average number of breakout groups that tended to show > > up according to the total number of participants based on the cumulated > > experience of this community. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I think > > it was an excel sheet. I'd like to find it again, but so far my > > searching hasn't lead to anything. > > > > Here's hoping! > > > > Lori > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > -- > > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > [email protected] > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 484 resident Open > Space Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide > www.openspaceworldmap.org > > At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in > German, some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual > https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Kommunikation >
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