I must say that every time I hear talk about “certification” I do have to smile. My immediate association is with locked facilities and men in white coats. Years ago it became very clear to me that any sort of Certification/accreditation didn’t make much sense. OST is free. Always has been. I particularly loved Chris’s story about Open Space in the prison. Truly, anybody can do it, and I hope they do. It is just like breathing… and equally essential for life, I think.
ho From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amanda Bucklow via OSList Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 9:51 AM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Cc: Amanda Bucklow Subject: Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to become CERTIFIED OPEN SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS??? Dear Marai I make the distinction between Certified (in the US sense) and Accredited as follows: Certified would be 1. State sponsored with legal status as in a certified accountant. In the UK in order to produce statutory accounts for the Inland Revenue you need to be ‘certified’ by a recognised body. The most common is Chartered Accountant which is the status conferred by the Privy Council and 2. there is a system of regulation which deals with disciplinary action the outcome of which is legal binding. This means your ‘licence’ to practice, and therefore you ability to earn your living, may be revoked or restricted in some way. Accredited would be 1. Trained by an organisation holding themselves out as qualified to train but not independently verified as competent to do so 2. A much shorter training, possibly non-standard and subject to the perceptions of the market as to quality, and 3. either no regulation or very light-touch regulation by a membership body, for example. The first invites the public to have confidence in the ‘certification’ and to rely on it. The second requires the consumer to make a judgment supported by more thorough research or recommendation. I do hope that is not too much information :-) kind regards Amanda On 2 Aug 2019, at 12:36, Marai Kiele via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Amanda, Could you help me understand what for you the difference is between a certification (in the US sense) and an accreditation? I know there is a cultural difference (years ago I learned from a British colleague that in the UK „certified“ means ‘certified insane’ as you are saying). So you use the word „accredited“. I believe in the US they use „certified“ for that very situation. True? (by the way here is a non-native English speaker from Germany asking). And I like your quote with your three distinctions. Marai Join the next Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders on August 26! <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780> Am 02.08.2019 um 12:25 schrieb Facilit8 via OSList <[email protected]>: Dear Mark For me there is only one case for certification and that is ‘certified insane’. The rest is an illusion of certainty which is the very antithesis of Open Space at least as I experience it. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the business opportunity and for practitioners. I have found that the OSList and the wonderful discussions, which are both challenging and respectful, to be the very best professional development and better than any ‘regulation’ I have experienced in any profession bar none. Wise folks here share and repeat the simplicity of what we do in service of others. As I say to my student mediators: “your training means you understand the goals and theory and your accreditation means I think you are a safe pair of hands. Now, you turn up, pay attention and ‘be’ a mediator. There is no certificate for that.” Greetings and warm wishes from a lovely sunny Hove (south coast England) Amanda Amanda Bucklow Independent Commercial Mediator Https://amandabucklow.co.uk <https://amandabucklow.co.uk/> 07976 924995 On 1 Aug 2019, at 20:35, Mark Carmel via OSList <[email protected]> wrote: Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists, ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION. Here is the question: Are you IN or out? Mark Carmel Wannabe Certified OST _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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