It only takes three minutes to learn OST and that includes a tea break. Warm wishes
Paul Levy Writer, facilitator, conversifier and collusion breaker On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, 18:23 Amanda Bucklow via OSList, < [email protected]> wrote: > Harrison, > > I am with you. I don’t care for either certification or accreditation - it > means nothing. White coats and Jack Nicolson are what comes to my mind and > in truth the systems are run by the inmates! I would be very disheartened > if OS succumbed to the myth of certification. OS is a process and like the > process of baking bread it has essential ingredients (people, commitment > and good will) and many recipes (their contributions). > > I hope you are in your summer palace! Maine if I recall. Feasting on > lobsters perhaps? > > my very good wishes to you... > Amanda > > On 2 Aug 2019, at 15:36, Harrison Owen via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I must say that every time I hear talk about “certification” I do have to > smile. My immediate association is with locked facilities and men in white > coats. Years ago it became very clear to me that any sort of > Certification/accreditation didn’t make much sense. OST is free. Always has > been. I particularly loved Chris’s story about Open Space in the prison. > Truly, anybody can do it, and I hope they do. It is just like breathing… > and equally essential for life, I think. > > ho > > *From:* OSList [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Amanda Bucklow > via OSList > *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2019 9:51 AM > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list > *Cc:* Amanda Bucklow > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if > that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money > OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to > become CERTIFIED OPEN SPACE TECHNOLOGISTS??? > > Dear Marai > > I make the distinction between Certified (in the US sense) and Accredited > as follows: > > Certified would be > 1. State sponsored with legal status as in a certified accountant. In the > UK in order to produce statutory accounts for the Inland Revenue you need > to be ‘certified’ by a recognised body. The most common is Chartered > Accountant which is the status conferred by the Privy Council and > 2. there is a system of regulation which deals with disciplinary action > the outcome of which is legal binding. This means your ‘licence’ to > practice, and therefore you ability to earn your living, may be revoked or > restricted in some way. > > Accredited would be > 1. Trained by an organisation holding themselves out as qualified to train > but not independently verified as competent to do so > 2. A much shorter training, possibly non-standard and subject to the > perceptions of the market as to quality, and > 3. either no regulation or very light-touch regulation by a membership > body, for example. > > The first invites the public to have confidence in the ‘certification’ and > to rely on it. The second requires the consumer to make a judgment > supported by more thorough research or recommendation. > > I do hope that is not too much information :-) > > kind regards > Amanda > > > On 2 Aug 2019, at 12:36, Marai Kiele via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Amanda, > > Could you help me understand what for you the difference is between a > certification (in the US sense) and an accreditation? > > I know there is a cultural difference (years ago I learned from a British > colleague that in the UK „certified“ means ‘certified insane’ as you are > saying). > > So you use the word „accredited“. I believe in the US they use „certified“ > for that very situation. True? > (by the way here is a non-native English speaker from Germany asking). > > And I like your quote with your three distinctions. > > Marai > > Join the next Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders on August 26! > <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780> > > > > Am 02.08.2019 um 12:25 schrieb Facilit8 via OSList < > [email protected]>: > > Dear Mark > > For me there is only one case for certification and that is ‘certified > insane’. The rest is an illusion of certainty which is the very antithesis > of Open Space at least as I experience it. > > I appreciate your enthusiasm for the business opportunity and for > practitioners. I have found that the OSList and the wonderful discussions, > which are both challenging and respectful, to be the very best professional > development and better than any ‘regulation’ I have experienced in any > profession bar none. Wise folks here share and repeat the simplicity of > what we do in service of others. > > As I say to my student mediators: “your training means you understand the > goals and theory and your accreditation means I think you are a safe pair > of hands. Now, you turn up, pay attention and ‘be’ a mediator. There is no > certificate for that.” > > Greetings and warm wishes from a lovely sunny Hove (south coast England) > > Amanda > > Amanda Bucklow > Independent Commercial Mediator > Https://amandabucklow.co.uk <https://amandabucklow.co.uk/> > 07976 924995 > > > On 1 Aug 2019, at 20:35, Mark Carmel via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists, > > ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION. > > Here is the question: Are you IN or out? > > Mark Carmel > Wannabe Certified OST > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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