Hey Michael Pannwitz, I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to everyone.
Thanks for the question. :) Jake ________________ When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems. - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Jake, > which Michael are your thinking of? > mmp > > Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList: > > Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to > > organizing them? > > > > Thanks > > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread. > > > > After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that > > we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's > > suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes > > into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern > > recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes > > that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned > > into OKRs using the iterative sprints. > > > > This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow > > better, and it requires less facilitation. > > > > I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the > > outcomes. I may also incorporate that. > > > > Thanks again! > > > > ________________ > > > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, > > and you will be free of problems. > > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide > > the outcomes. > > For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition > > to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective > > and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find > > about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants > > towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor > > the more open and the less prescriptive approach. > > > > As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is > > to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os > > on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the > > right. > > During this session, participants - conveners and other - were > > invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what > > they found passion and responsibility for to take forward. > > In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make > > these initiatives happen. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList > > <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > No... If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, > > then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget > > about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to > > generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open > > and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will > > come out of it and how results will be used. > > > > Chris > > > >> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Reviewing again this article > >> < > https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html > > > >> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors > >> for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have > >> "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a > >> pre-set outcome you think? > >> ________________ > >> > >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine > >> once again, and you will be free of problems. > >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean. > >> ________________ > >> > >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will > >> shine once again, and you will be free of problems. > >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much > >> welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on. > >> It's such a treat to hear from experienced > >> practitioners. > >> > >> Some info: > >> > >> * I have one day for the event > >> * There are about 30 participants: assistant > >> managers to the SVP > >> * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key > >> results are how you measure your success > >> * We need to define both objectives and key > >> results by the end of the day: so, it's a > >> tight time-frame > >> > >> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the > >> line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule > >> too much. > >> > >> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space > >> Genuine Contact training for formulating > >> recommendations and have found it to work well. > >> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of > >> control even more and will explore the many > >> options provided on this thread for future events. > >> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I > >> can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's > >> comment. :) > >> > >> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions > >> in my "convergence" design: > >> > >> * After the group generates the top 10 draft > >> objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will > >> invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes > >> rather than voting on them. > >> * I will invite self-organization to refine the > >> themes in parallel. The group members will be > >> able to choose which theme(s) they want to > >> refine (or not) in a series of sprints with > >> sprint reviews. The same setup with key results. > >> > >> Learning as I go as we all do. :) > >> > >> Much love, > >> Jake > >> > >> > >> ________________ > >> > >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will > >> shine once again, and you will be free of problems. > >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Jake____ > >> > >> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am > >> wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is > >> for this development process and also there > >> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they > >> are not yet defined, but should be > >> identified/agreed on in the OST?____ > >> > >> My experience from similar situations is that > >> it is not that well thought through or that > >> the opportunities at hand if choosing to use > >> OST are not fully understood.____ > >> > >> Good night from Sweden____ > >> > >> Thomas Herrmann____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> *Från:* OSList > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> *För *Jake Yeager via OSList > >> *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57 > >> *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email > >> list <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives > >> and key results (OKRs)?____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> Hi folks,____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> Anyone have experience using Open Space to > >> develop OKRs with a group?____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late > >> February. I plan to use the 25/10 > >> Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft > >> objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop > >> the key results (KR's) for each objective. ____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. > >> It might get a little hairy if the clear > >> cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater > >> than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it > >> down. Also, I am exploring if consent > >> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor > >> might need to make a final call on the top 3 > >> if the group is split.____ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> Thanks and much love,____ > >> > >> Jake > >> ____ > >> > >> ____________________ > >> > >> __ __ > >> > >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart > >> will shine once again, and you will be free of > >> problems.____ > >> > >> - Robert Adams > >> <http://www.robert-adams.info/>____ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > -- > > Ilan Kirschenbaum - Co-Founder & Agile coach At Practical Agile > LTD. > > Twitter: @kirschi_ > > Phone # +972-54-6620348 > > website: www.practical-agile.com < > http://www.practical-agile.com/> > > > > <http://www.practical-agile.com> > > <http://practical-agile.com> > > > > -- > > ________________ > > > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and > > you will be free of problems. > > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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