No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that would be 
“pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But specifying that “we 
are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open and 
the sponsor should be generally curious about what will come out of it and how 
results will be used.

Chris

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Reviewing again this article 
> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
>  by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space. 
> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating 
> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
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> will be free of problems.
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> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
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> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have 
> provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced 
> practitioners.
> 
> Some info:
> I have one day for the event
> There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
> Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how you measure 
> your success 
> We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of the day: so, 
> it's a tight time-frame
> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the sponsor to 
> switch up the schedule too much.
> 
> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact training for 
> formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. That said, I am 
> open to learning how to let go of control even more and will explore the many 
> options provided on this thread for future events. I'm definitely open to 
> learning more about how I can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's 
> comment. :)
> 
> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence" design:
> After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10 
> Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes rather 
> than voting on them. 
> I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in parallel. The group 
> members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want to refine (or not) in 
> a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.
> Learning as I go as we all do. :) 
> 
> Much love,
> Jake
> 
> 
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> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> 
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> Dear Jake
> 
> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the 
> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there must 
> be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but should be 
> identified/agreed on in the OST?
> 
> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well thought 
> through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST are not 
> fully understood.
> 
> Good night from Sweden
> 
> Thomas Herrmann
> 
>  
> 
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> Ämne: [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?
> 
>  
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
> 
>  
> 
> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use the 
> 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and then 
> 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. 
> 
>  
> 
> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little hairy if 
> the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. Guess I could 
> use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent decision-making 
> could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final call on the top 3 if 
> the group is split.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks and much love,
> 
> Jake
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
> 
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