Lennert...which navigation service do you use???...OSMAND offlein, or Brouter offline?
I just found those 2 menu buttons and On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 11:51:19 AM UTC-5, Mo Re wrote: > > hmmmm...I was not aware of that setting...maybe we are on to something. I > must test this. thanks! > > On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 10:25:30 AM UTC-5, Lennert Bakker wrote: >> >> I meant the compass needle in the left, bottom corner (route settings), >> turn off "pass allong entire track" that setting will mess things up! >> >> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 16:19:53 UTC+1 schreef Lennert Bakker: >>> >>> Ah I get it! When you navigate a track, instead of a route the >>> directions you get have nothing to do with the roads. Osmand will show you >>> where your direction has to change according to the track, not by looking >>> at the road map, it ignores intersection on the map. It's complicated but I >>> hope you understand. If you deviate from the track the app will calculate a >>> route back to the track, then turn by turn will work as normal. >>> >>> If you look at a Garmin navi with a loaded track you'll probably see no >>> information accept the track line. You should just follow the line which >>> will take time to get used to, just see the arrows about turns as a change >>> in direction and not as a junction in the road. Voice prompts are useless >>> when navigating tracks. >>> >>> You can turn off follow the complete track and that will maybe help a >>> little. An you can turn off route calculation for the fist and last part of >>> the track. Press the compass needle and select the gear for route options. >>> >>> I've been using Osmand for three years now to navigate roads, dirtroads, >>> single tracks, in remote area's and city's. Eg the unpaved Alpine passes, >>> smuggler routes in Spain, forest roads in The Netherlands and gravel roads >>> in Norway. >>> >>> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 15:05:25 UTC+1 schreef Mo Re: >>>> >>>> thanks for the reply. I am not creating these. I get them as already >>>> made gpx files and yes I was able to import the track and navigate to it >>>> but I'm not sure why the turn by turn was seriously failing giving wonky >>>> directions so I had to resort to following the line manually which >>>> required >>>> more monitoring than I would have liked. I'm glad this has worked for your >>>> rides. Have you used a track that is mostly offroad with some paved >>>> sections, fire roads in remote areas? >>>> >>>> Again the line and map part is fine...the errors I encountered were >>>> only in the navigation on screen and voice prompts...so this points to the >>>> navigation engine. >>>> >>>> I do not have optional waypoints and I wonder iof that somehow >>>> helps...but I must stay on track exactly and the constant recalculation >>>> messed everything up? Can you turn off recalculation? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:10:34 AM UTC-5, Lennert Bakker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've been using OsmAnd the same way, offroad on a motorcycle. When you >>>>> create a route in basecamp you should convert it to a track. Select your >>>>> route, right click and choose create track from selected route. This >>>>> track, >>>>> with optional waypoints can be exported as a gpx. Use that gpx and you'll >>>>> be fine. I recommend you incorporate a 'Start' and a 'Finnish' waypoint >>>>> in >>>>> the track with a logical name. You can navigate to the start of the track >>>>> and then turn on the track to drive it. This way it's fool proof. Don't >>>>> make a perfect loop, start and finnish with the same coordinates. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck! >>>>> >>>>> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 13:07:34 UTC+1 schreef Mo Re: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi...thanks for the reply. These gpx files are offroad motorcycle >>>>>> routes through forests using fire roads and have been calculated for >>>>>> optimum scenery and types of riding not shortest route. They are used >>>>>> by >>>>>> many. Is there a way to turn off recalculate and ahhere to strict route >>>>>> on >>>>>> osmand? This is why I am testing lucust too now for this >>>>>> https://goo.gl/Y5XCN7 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 4:03:31 AM UTC-5, P Wat wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mo Re >>>>>>> 1) Brouter is a very useful app, and Poutnik is understandably a >>>>>>> great supporter of it and source of help with it, but maybe an >>>>>>> alternative >>>>>>> viewpoint would also interest you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Like you, I sometimes find that using a pre-constructed GPX >>>>>>> route, in conjunction with OsmAnd, leads to unhelpful voice directions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even so, I find OsmAnd is one of the best in many respects, with or >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> Brouter, you just need to get to grips with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) Possible solutions (a few, but not exhaustive):- >>>>>>> a) Update to the latest Osmand+. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then >>>>>>> b) Use your GPX file with Osmand, but ignore the voice prompts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> c) Consider not using your GPX route. Create your route direct in >>>>>>> Osmand instead, by setting a provisional destination on the map, or to >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> pre-set "favourite" (in "My places"). Then add intermediate waypoints >>>>>>> direct on the map, and/or add "subsequent destination". Add as many as >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> like, then sort them into a useful sequence. Hit "Go" and follow it >>>>>>> with or >>>>>>> without voice instructions. Ask for help if you are uncertain how >>>>>>> to do this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But first >>>>>>> d) Have a good look around http://www.osmand.net/ . Start in >>>>>>> “Features”. It has many useful instructions. Use them in >>>>>>> conjunction with this forum. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let us know how you get on. >>>>>>> Paul W (non-expert but enthusiast) >>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 2:10:17 AM UTC, Mo Re wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so would you consider in my situation needing offline routing for >>>>>>>> fire roads in remote areas would osmand with brouter be as good as >>>>>>>> locus >>>>>>>> map with brouter? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was very impressed with locusmaps functions regarding more >>>>>>>> control of recalculate https://goo.gl/Y5XCN7 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This feature alone seems like it would suit me best. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So to clarify...I can take my existing gpx track I have that I used >>>>>>>> in osmand without turn by turn because of the problems and use that >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> gps in locus maps with brouter as the offline navigation engine and >>>>>>>> ist >>>>>>>> "should" work better because of these modes sleections linked above??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> tia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 1:50:01 AM UTC-5, Poutnik wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dne 28/11/2016 v 00:39 Mo Re napsal(a): >>>>>>>>> > Trying to understand this? >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > So you generated a new route using Brouter and because it was >>>>>>>>> made in >>>>>>>>> > that program is has "hints" ie..turn ahead, direction and >>>>>>>>> distance >>>>>>>>> > embedded in it via xml? So this will work better as a gpx track >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> > turn by turn than the same track made in Garmin Basecamp? >>>>>>>>> Note that GPX file is a XML used for description of locations, >>>>>>>>> routes >>>>>>>>> and tracks. >>>>>>>>> I do not say better, as I do not use nor know Garmin Basecamp. >>>>>>>>> BRouter is 3rd party offline routing engine, able either to >>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>> navigation service for OSMAnd, LocusMap or Oruxmaps, >>>>>>>>> either can generate GPX file for the route. BRouter web is its >>>>>>>>> online >>>>>>>>> web frontend. >>>>>>>>> The advantage of BRouter is, that it is script(profile file) >>>>>>>>> based, >>>>>>>>> so you can precisely define your preferences. >>>>>>>>> See also https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Can I open my gps files and regenerate them formBrouter to add >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> > metadata in? >>>>>>>>> No, it does not work this way. BRouer needs to be provided either >>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>> points from OSMAnd(LocusMap, OruxMaps) favorites, >>>>>>>>> either comunicates with nav. application via API. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Do I need to select Brouter on OsmAnd? >>>>>>>>> Yes, same as when you choose other navigation engine in OSMAnd. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > also...not to divert this but in my searching today it appears >>>>>>>>> Locus >>>>>>>>> > maps app might be better up to the task of turn by turn routing >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> > remote area riding on unpaved roads and fire roads...because you >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> > turn off "recalculate route" which I think is what caused me so >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> > errors trying to get started and more importantly you can use >>>>>>>>> > "NeoTreks" which Locuismaps has. I think Locusmaps also can use >>>>>>>>> > Brouter but not sure. >>>>>>>>> I did not want originally complicate things, nor explicitly prefer >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>>> But as former exclusive OSMAnd ( all purpose GPs navigation ) >>>>>>>>> user, >>>>>>>>> I use now more LocusMap ( more focused on non motorized / offroad >>>>>>>>> activities ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, LocusMap can use Brouter, I do so routinely. >>>>>>>>> The disadvantage is, LocusMap does not have its own offline native >>>>>>>>> navigation, >>>>>>>>> but this is for me more than sufficiently replaced by BRouter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Poutnik ( The Wanderer ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Brouter profiles >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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