Poutnik...I am finally figuring out brouter with locus as I try to resollve this and understand my options. For some reason brouter will not go to car mode oand show a 17 mile tripto take 15 hrs. When I switch to mapquest its 22 min? Is there a video or good way to learn brouter?
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, Mo Re wrote: > > Lennert...which navigation service do you use???...OSMAND offlein, or > Brouter offline? > > I just found those 2 menu buttons and > > On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 11:51:19 AM UTC-5, Mo Re wrote: >> >> hmmmm...I was not aware of that setting...maybe we are on to something. >> I must test this. thanks! >> >> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 10:25:30 AM UTC-5, Lennert Bakker wrote: >>> >>> I meant the compass needle in the left, bottom corner (route settings), >>> turn off "pass allong entire track" that setting will mess things up! >>> >>> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 16:19:53 UTC+1 schreef Lennert Bakker: >>>> >>>> Ah I get it! When you navigate a track, instead of a route the >>>> directions you get have nothing to do with the roads. Osmand will show you >>>> where your direction has to change according to the track, not by looking >>>> at the road map, it ignores intersection on the map. It's complicated but >>>> I >>>> hope you understand. If you deviate from the track the app will calculate >>>> a >>>> route back to the track, then turn by turn will work as normal. >>>> >>>> If you look at a Garmin navi with a loaded track you'll probably see no >>>> information accept the track line. You should just follow the line which >>>> will take time to get used to, just see the arrows about turns as a change >>>> in direction and not as a junction in the road. Voice prompts are useless >>>> when navigating tracks. >>>> >>>> You can turn off follow the complete track and that will maybe help a >>>> little. An you can turn off route calculation for the fist and last part >>>> of >>>> the track. Press the compass needle and select the gear for route options. >>>> >>>> I've been using Osmand for three years now to navigate roads, >>>> dirtroads, single tracks, in remote area's and city's. Eg the unpaved >>>> Alpine passes, smuggler routes in Spain, forest roads in The Netherlands >>>> and gravel roads in Norway. >>>> >>>> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 15:05:25 UTC+1 schreef Mo Re: >>>>> >>>>> thanks for the reply. I am not creating these. I get them as already >>>>> made gpx files and yes I was able to import the track and navigate to it >>>>> but I'm not sure why the turn by turn was seriously failing giving wonky >>>>> directions so I had to resort to following the line manually which >>>>> required >>>>> more monitoring than I would have liked. I'm glad this has worked for >>>>> your >>>>> rides. Have you used a track that is mostly offroad with some paved >>>>> sections, fire roads in remote areas? >>>>> >>>>> Again the line and map part is fine...the errors I encountered were >>>>> only in the navigation on screen and voice prompts...so this points to >>>>> the >>>>> navigation engine. >>>>> >>>>> I do not have optional waypoints and I wonder iof that somehow >>>>> helps...but I must stay on track exactly and the constant recalculation >>>>> messed everything up? Can you turn off recalculation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:10:34 AM UTC-5, Lennert Bakker >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using OsmAnd the same way, offroad on a motorcycle. When >>>>>> you create a route in basecamp you should convert it to a track. Select >>>>>> your route, right click and choose create track from selected route. >>>>>> This >>>>>> track, with optional waypoints can be exported as a gpx. Use that gpx >>>>>> and >>>>>> you'll be fine. I recommend you incorporate a 'Start' and a 'Finnish' >>>>>> waypoint in the track with a logical name. You can navigate to the start >>>>>> of >>>>>> the track and then turn on the track to drive it. This way it's fool >>>>>> proof. >>>>>> Don't make a perfect loop, start and finnish with the same coordinates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 13:07:34 UTC+1 schreef Mo Re: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi...thanks for the reply. These gpx files are offroad motorcycle >>>>>>> routes through forests using fire roads and have been calculated for >>>>>>> optimum scenery and types of riding not shortest route. They are used >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> many. Is there a way to turn off recalculate and ahhere to strict >>>>>>> route on >>>>>>> osmand? This is why I am testing lucust too now for this >>>>>>> https://goo.gl/Y5XCN7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 4:03:31 AM UTC-5, P Wat wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mo Re >>>>>>>> 1) Brouter is a very useful app, and Poutnik is understandably a >>>>>>>> great supporter of it and source of help with it, but maybe an >>>>>>>> alternative >>>>>>>> viewpoint would also interest you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Like you, I sometimes find that using a pre-constructed GPX >>>>>>>> route, in conjunction with OsmAnd, leads to unhelpful voice >>>>>>>> directions. >>>>>>>> Even so, I find OsmAnd is one of the best in many respects, with or >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> Brouter, you just need to get to grips with it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3) Possible solutions (a few, but not exhaustive):- >>>>>>>> a) Update to the latest Osmand+. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then >>>>>>>> b) Use your GPX file with Osmand, but ignore the voice prompts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> c) Consider not using your GPX route. Create your route direct in >>>>>>>> Osmand instead, by setting a provisional destination on the map, or to >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> pre-set "favourite" (in "My places"). Then add intermediate waypoints >>>>>>>> direct on the map, and/or add "subsequent destination". Add as many >>>>>>>> as you >>>>>>>> like, then sort them into a useful sequence. Hit "Go" and follow it >>>>>>>> with or >>>>>>>> without voice instructions. Ask for help if you are uncertain how >>>>>>>> to do this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But first >>>>>>>> d) Have a good look around http://www.osmand.net/ . Start in >>>>>>>> “Features”. It has many useful instructions. Use them in >>>>>>>> conjunction with this forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let us know how you get on. >>>>>>>> Paul W (non-expert but enthusiast) >>>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 2:10:17 AM UTC, Mo Re wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> so would you consider in my situation needing offline routing for >>>>>>>>> fire roads in remote areas would osmand with brouter be as good as >>>>>>>>> locus >>>>>>>>> map with brouter? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was very impressed with locusmaps functions regarding more >>>>>>>>> control of recalculate https://goo.gl/Y5XCN7 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This feature alone seems like it would suit me best. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So to clarify...I can take my existing gpx track I have that I >>>>>>>>> used in osmand without turn by turn because of the problems and use >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> same gps in locus maps with brouter as the offline navigation engine >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> ist "should" work better because of these modes sleections linked >>>>>>>>> above??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 1:50:01 AM UTC-5, Poutnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dne 28/11/2016 v 00:39 Mo Re napsal(a): >>>>>>>>>> > Trying to understand this? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > So you generated a new route using Brouter and because it was >>>>>>>>>> made in >>>>>>>>>> > that program is has "hints" ie..turn ahead, direction and >>>>>>>>>> distance >>>>>>>>>> > embedded in it via xml? So this will work better as a gpx >>>>>>>>>> track for >>>>>>>>>> > turn by turn than the same track made in Garmin Basecamp? >>>>>>>>>> Note that GPX file is a XML used for description of locations, >>>>>>>>>> routes >>>>>>>>>> and tracks. >>>>>>>>>> I do not say better, as I do not use nor know Garmin Basecamp. >>>>>>>>>> BRouter is 3rd party offline routing engine, able either to >>>>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>>>> navigation service for OSMAnd, LocusMap or Oruxmaps, >>>>>>>>>> either can generate GPX file for the route. BRouter web is its >>>>>>>>>> online >>>>>>>>>> web frontend. >>>>>>>>>> The advantage of BRouter is, that it is script(profile file) >>>>>>>>>> based, >>>>>>>>>> so you can precisely define your preferences. >>>>>>>>>> See also https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Can I open my gps files and regenerate them formBrouter to add >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> > metadata in? >>>>>>>>>> No, it does not work this way. BRouer needs to be provided >>>>>>>>>> either by >>>>>>>>>> points from OSMAnd(LocusMap, OruxMaps) favorites, >>>>>>>>>> either comunicates with nav. application via API. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Do I need to select Brouter on OsmAnd? >>>>>>>>>> Yes, same as when you choose other navigation engine in OSMAnd. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > also...not to divert this but in my searching today it appears >>>>>>>>>> Locus >>>>>>>>>> > maps app might be better up to the task of turn by turn routing >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> > remote area riding on unpaved roads and fire roads...because >>>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>>> > turn off "recalculate route" which I think is what caused me so >>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>> > errors trying to get started and more importantly you can use >>>>>>>>>> > "NeoTreks" which Locuismaps has. I think Locusmaps also can >>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>> > Brouter but not sure. >>>>>>>>>> I did not want originally complicate things, nor explicitly >>>>>>>>>> prefer other >>>>>>>>>> product. >>>>>>>>>> But as former exclusive OSMAnd ( all purpose GPs navigation ) >>>>>>>>>> user, >>>>>>>>>> I use now more LocusMap ( more focused on non motorized / offroad >>>>>>>>>> activities ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, LocusMap can use Brouter, I do so routinely. >>>>>>>>>> The disadvantage is, LocusMap does not have its own offline >>>>>>>>>> native >>>>>>>>>> navigation, >>>>>>>>>> but this is for me more than sufficiently replaced by BRouter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Poutnik ( The Wanderer ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Brouter profiles >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. 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