Hi all,

Many of your responses are going to my spam folder.  I don't know why.  
Today I even got one from lodrogyamtso, dated Dec 1, but that post seems to 
have been deleted from this group.  Suffice to say I got it too late to try 
his/her recommendations, having started again from scratch, and I don't 
think they would have worked using my SD card (which I needed to do for 
space reasons).

I know a fair bit about computers, having spent most of my life working 
with them, but the complexities being introduced these days are sometimes a 
bit beyond me.

I have tried Ghost Commander, and other file managers, none can access the 
full data of files in folders within 'external storage 2' at 
/storage/2614-1710/Android/data .  As I noted above, I have started again, 
and found ways to import maps, routes, favourites and so on.  I then got 
stuck with exporting routes I have recorded.  I have now found that under 
Navigation, selecting the route, selecting Details, one can 'share' the 
route to another file, or send an email with it in.  

The last bit of functionality I cannot find is how to delete routes.  I 
need to be able to, because I record several a week sometimes.  Does anyone 
know how to do this?

Having got this far I'm not inclined to experiment with different folders 
and migration strategies, since I don't want to break anything and find I 
have to start again.  So apologies to those who have made more suggestions.

I have exchanged messages with osmand support, but they haven't been very 
helpful.  They don't seem to really understand the issues this change has 
created for at least some of their regular users.  The issues aren't their 
fault of course, and have no doubt created a load of headaches for them, 
but I hope they manage to create some release notes with helpful notes 
about how to proceed.

If anyone wants a summary of the ways I have found to get round problems to 
do with access to the osmand files, I'll post a summary of all the methods 
I've found so far.

On Saturday, 4 December 2021 at 21:46:07 UTC [email protected] wrote:

>
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 8:35:53 AM UTC+1 tomcr**il.com wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Dec 2021, 00:44 A Thompson, thom**ail.com wrote:
>>
>>> File Commander is a file explorer type app for Android. There's a free 
>>>> version with intrusive ads. I only mention it because I couldn't 
>>>> successfully 'open with' from Samsung's file manager. Presumably other 
>>>> apps 
>>>> would work though.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> As far as I know  using File Commander makes no difference and I have not 
> tried Ghost Commander (but I do not have any expectations)
>
> I am definitively disappointed for this problem and obviously, for the 
> reasons I have already mentioned, I put the blame completely on 
> Google/Android leaders.
>
> One point I have note, it that if I go under the Android setting of Osmand 
> app and select to show/change the Permissions and than select "Files and 
> Media"
> I have offered two only options:
> *Allow access to media only
> *Deny
>
> If I look at other apps, in most of the cases I got the same two options,
> however for a small number of apps (like Acrobat Reader and Excel) I got a 
> third option
> *Allow management of all files.
>
> If we were able to use this option, I suppose the problems would be solved.
>
> In my opinion this is a problem not just for OsmAnd but for any apps that 
> need to access files (but for app that just need to access media).
> By the way I can not see much differences between media files and other 
> files. In my humble opinion both of them  are just binary files (or text 
> file in same cases)
>
> Do you know what happens if I choose to migrate to a subdirectory 
> **/Android/media or I choose to use a custom directory down there?
> (now I have already uninstalled and reinstalled the app so I can no longer 
> see the migration request)
>
> Thank a lot and sorry for the long post (and for the rant)
>
> AnyFile
>
>

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