On 2008-Aug-28, at 23:48, Matt Johnston wrote:

> On 28 Aug 2008, at 23:34, Stefano Mori wrote:
>
>> There would be no need to ban the app if the app was just a reader,
>> and the content came from elsewhere, even a new iTunes comic store.
>>
>> Matt said the reader doesn't include a timer because it's not a
>> slideshow app... well embedding the content into the app with
>> alternate endings makes it more like a game app., myst, or some such.
>>
>> Either way it's no longer a comic, the rules change, and comparisons
>> with rated content from iTunes don't count.
>
> Do you buy a comic and then buy the paper to put it on?
>
> When you buy an item from the iTunes store, you get vehicle and
> content. Whether that's MP3 and Christina Aguilera or H.264 and "There
> Will Be Blood". Vehicle AND Content.
>
> This is no different.


Well, an mp3 doesn't play itself.

Remember abstraction? MVC? Or should all my mp3 files on my Mac  
actually be located in /Applications as self running executables?  
Instead of 50 apps in there I can have 5000 "apps", mostly music, and  
somewhere amongst it is OmniOutliner... i.. j.. k.. l.. m.. ah found  
it...

The question is, will a multitude of comics be using the same  
rendering software and file format? If so then abstract out the  
rendering software. Now instead of having to limit what the rendering  
software can do to keep the file small, you can build in more  
features. Aspire to be like Adobe Reader. No... that's a joke.

What you say below about the "download from server" model that  
requires you to be online to read is also not good, as you say. And  
that's not how iTunes does it. You download from server and keep the  
content. You then browse it and play it at your leisure. How many  
comics should a person be able to have on their iPhone? The first 4  
home screens are already full, and there are only 5 left. Where will  
all these apps go? Do I have to keep deleting them? What a pain.

I think you're right about the need for Apple to do as you say re.  
ratings. And it's yet another reason to abstract the player from the  
content, given that all that naughty stuff already gets through when  
it's just content.

Stefano


> Most importantly, Apple needs to:
>
> a) be consistent with their ratings systems. Some horrific content is
> available on the Movie Store without rating. Like Deliverance. Or the
> motion-comic of Watchmen (complete with murder, attempted rape and
> full frontal male nudity). Without Ratings. So wee Jimmy can download
> AND view and bypass the built in controls.
>
> b) expand the existing ratings system to be opt-in and include all
> types of content on the store. There are recommendations for Games/
> Entertainment. But other content is excluded. Stupidly. Apple is
> highly hypocritical here considering some of the content they host on
> the movie store.
>
> Yes, this has been a great week for us in terms of PR coverage but the
> point remains. Apple has half a solution and is flailing under the  
> poor
>
> We have executables for the built-in comic and also the 'download from
> third party server' content model. The latter is very unsatisfactory
> because when you WANT to VIEW you have to download and that ruins the
> instant nature of the medium.
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