On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Chris Gehlker wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> >> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/12/04-8 >> >> <snippet> >> A few months ago, Holder was even more explicit. "Our government >> authorized the use of torture, approved of secret electronic >> surveillance against American citizens, secretly detained American >> citizens without due process of law, denied the writ of habeas corpus >> to hundreds of accused enemy combatants and authorized the use of >> procedures that violate both international law and the United States >> Constitution," he said. "We owe the American people a reckoning." >> >> The day of reckoning is fast upon us. >> >> If Obama and Holder want to adhere to our Constitution and uphold our >> highest values, they must pursue those in the Bush Administration who >> violated that Constitution, broke our laws, and tarnished our values. >> >> Read the words of Lt. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, who investigated the >> Abu >> Ghraib scandal for the Pentagon. "There is no longer any doubt as to >> whether the current administration has committed war crimes," he >> concluded. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether >> those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account." >> >> </snippet> > > This argument makes no sense. It wasn't just the Bush Administration > that "authorized the use of torture, approved of secret electronic > surveillance against American citizens, secretly detained American > citizens without due process of law, denied the writ of habeas corpus > to hundreds of accused enemy combatants and authorized the use of > procedures that violate both international law and the United States > Constitution" it was the "government". This includes the Democratic > congressional majority that approved FISA and Military Commissions Act > of 2006. The author of the commondreams post acts as if congress > hasn't already granted immunity for this stuff.
totally agree with you ! The DEMS are culpable ... And some will recall I had fit when Obama voted yea on the revised FISA bill , which according to both Jon Turley and John Dean, is a really bad bill wrt to our Constitutional rights to privacy. K > > > -- > Seven Deadly Sins? I thought it was a to-do list! > > _______________________________________________ > OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] > http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters > List hosted at http://cat5.org/ http://www.kevincallahan.org/ http://www.kevincallahan.org/software/accessorizer.html http://www.xeniamara.com/ _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
