I work in a major trauma center in pittsburgh.  I think that it was a
combination of people, you know, multiple commitees, yada yada.  but i think
we also may have had a hand in it, don't quote me though.  b/c we didn't
have enough staff to cover all 8 floors of patients, and we needed to
prioritize.

jo


----- Original Message -----
From: "The Butterfields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: OT and Acute Care


> Thanks for replying!
>
>             I work in a very small hospital in costal town in Maine. Only
32
> beds. I am just curious who took you off the hip pathway? the MD's or
PT's?
>
> Mike Butterfield
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jo Eates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: OT and Acute Care
>
>
> > Hello.  I also work in a large acute care hospital.  We too, have a TKR
> > pathway, however, OT is not on it.  PT sees the patient POD #1 and will
> get
> > us a consult if it is warranted.  The only way that we see any TKR
> patients
> > is if the order is handwritten by a physician, and usually that is for
> > insurance purposes if they are going to rehab. I agree, I feel that, in
> most
> > circumstances, OT is not required fo TKR.  Our only problem is that they
> > took us off of the total hip pathway, and that is one that we are
fighting
> > to get back on!  I don't know if this helps, but it's another
perspective.
> >
> > Jo Eates
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Butterfields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:43 PM
> > Subject: OT and Acute Care
> >
> >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > >     I am writting this post to get some feed back from other OT's that
> > treat
> > > acute status post total knee and hip replacements. I think I actually
> will
> > > talk just about total knee arthroplasty since this seems to be my area
> of
> > > confusion.
> > >         In my hospital there is a five day pathway for TKR. OT's go in
> on
> > > day 3 of the pathway. Each day there are certain goals that we are
> suppose
> > > to do with the patient and then "check" them off in the pathway. For
> > > example, on day three contact gaurd with commode transfer and
> independence
> > > with lower extremity bathing after set up are some of the goals we
have
> to
> > > work on. By day five patients are suppose to be independent with lower
> > > extremity dressing with adaptive equipment and be independent with
> > personal
> > > self care.
> > >         I guess  feel that there is not really a need for OT with TKR.
I
> > > feel that once pt gets enough knee rom and hip flexion strength they
> will
> > > not need any adaptive equipment. In my experience I have found if a pt
> can
> > > get to 85-90 degress they dont need any AE. A majority of the time the
> > knee
> > > patients by day 3 have already gone to the bathroom with cna's. I
guess
> I
> > am
> > > rambling so I will cut to the chase. I really feel dislike treating
TKR
> > > because I feel there outcome would not change if they did or did not
> > recieve
> > > OT in the acute care setting. Maybe a part of my dislike is because I
am
> > > going by the pathway (groan) to determine my goals, not very
> > > person-centered. Yes there are exceptions, the older patients some
times
> > do
> > > need AE and ADL/transfer training but they seem to be the exception.
> > >     I would love to here from other OT's who work in acute care and
> treat
> > > TKR. Feel free to email me personaly or you can keep it on the list. I
> > have
> > > other questions, gripes, comments about OT in acute care that I would
> love
> > > to talk about.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Mike Butterfield
> > >
> > >
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