Ron Carson wrote: > > Hello Vicki: > > Thank your for apologizing, truly a rare commodity in today's world. > > Your previous comments really have made me think as to why some people > see a conflict and others don't. For example, were I previously worked, > I was probably the only OT (out of 7) that had issues with the > physician's perceptions of OT's role. I now think that one possible > explanation for this is bases more on my expectation of the OT role > versus other OT's. > > Several of the OT's were comfortable and quite happy with the OT = > Upper Extremity format of treatment. This sort of treatment philosophy > was well supported and endorsed by the medical system of the hospital. > OT's that has this perspective seemed to accept their role and they > seemed comfortable within the system. > > On the other had, my role expectation of OT was not about upper > extremity. My expectation was that I was the expert in occupation, not > the expert in upper extremity function. It is this expectation that did > not fill well within the medical model and that was not recognized. > But, it is what our profession claims to do and it is to a small degree > how I was trained. For me, being an occupation-based practitioner was > like a round peg in a square hole. > > The ironic thing is that occupation-based practice really is a good fit > in the medical model but only if the model widens its view. There > already exists much anecdotal evidence and some research pointing to > the fact that what is most important is restoring occupation (what some > call function but which is NOT equivalent with occupation). Insurance > willing pays for people to regain some of their lost occupation. People > want to be able to do what's meaningful and relevant (i.e. occupation) > and outcomes are about occupation. Unfortunately however, some outcomes > look at function (i.e. the functional independence measure) but do not > really look at occupation. None the less, occupation (function) is > where it's at and the said thing is that OT is already there and has > been there for a LONG time. In my opinion, our future is NOT in upper > extremity function, it is in occupation. > > On a side note, I have asked many PT's if they believe OT's are upper > extremity experts and I have yet to have one say yes. It's like we are > experts in our own minds but the reality is that other professions > don't see that. Of course, there are always exceptions and I am sure > there are many reader on this list who ARE upper extremity experts but > this is probably because of advance training they have taken. To what I > am referring is to the average practitioner who has not taken course > that specialize in upper extremity function) > > WOW!, sorry for the long tirade. And I haven't even had a cup of coffee > yet! Well off to see my therapist! (sorry for grammatical errors, no > time to proof read) > > Ron > > ~~~~~ > On 7/24/02, Vickie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > VP> Ron Carson wrote: > >> > >> Hello Vicki: > >> > >> I am not sure how long you've been a member of this list. Just for your > >> information, I started this list, albeit with a different name, in 1998. > >> This was two years before I began teaching. Back then, the discussions and > >> conversations where much the same as they are today. My impetus for > >> starting the original discussion forum was because of my experiences in the > >> 'real world'. The 'conflict' that you mention did not start at the academic > >> level, it started at the treatment level. My intention is not about > >> justifying my job (in fact this list has NOTHING to do with my job) but it > >> is my attempt to help ensure that there are jobs for graduates of OT schools > >> around the country. > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> ~~~~~ > >> On 7/23/2002, Vickie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > >> VP> THERE is plenty for everyone to do. Not just if you work in Canada or > >> VP> the UK but here in the USA. > >> > >> VP> This 'conflict' it appears to me, has been initiated at the academic > >> VP> level. AND I think the 'conflict' is either a 'perceived' one, or is a > >> VP> 'political' one. > >> > >> VP> I'M GOING TO MAKE A REALLY SWEEPING ASSUMPTION HERE, THAT IT DOESN'T > >> VP> REALLY EXIST IN THE REAL WORLD. > >> > >> VP> Academicians, please find something better to do with your time than > >> VP> drum up conflict with the working force so you can justify your jobs! > >> > >> VP> *********��*********** > >> > >> VP> Unsubscribe? 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Although I've done > VP> some 'prn' work in most all major in pt. facilities in the Dallas area > VP> inthe last 10 years. > > VP> The combined OT/PT board helps set the stage for cooperation. > VP> vickie > > VP> *********��*********** > > VP> Unsubscribe? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > VP> In the message's *body*, put the following text: unsubscribe OTlist > > VP> ** List messages are archived at: > > VP> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > VP> *********��*********** > > *********��*********** > > Unsubscribe? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In the message's *body*, put the following text: unsubscribe OTlist > > ** List messages are archived at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > *********��***********
WELL, Ron, In Home Health, Occupation is where it's at! No where is occupation MORE conducive to wellness than in Home Health. vickie *********��*********** Unsubscribe? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message's *body*, put the following text: unsubscribe OTlist ** List messages are archived at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] *********��***********
